413: Therapy Search is BROKEN w/ Colleen Marshall from Two Chairs

The Hardcore Self Help Podcast with Duff the Psych

Revolutionizing Therapy: Colleen Marshall on Two Chairs' Matching Process

In this episode of the Hardcore Self Help Podcast, Dr. Robert Duff interviews Colleen Marshall, Chief Clinical Officer at Two Chairs, a company dedicated to improving the therapy experience through innovative matching processes and measurement-based care. They discuss the current challenges in finding a suitable therapist, the importance of therapeutic alliance, and how Two Chairs' approach significantly improves client retention rates. Colleen also shares insights into her background, the systematic changes needed in therapy cultures, and the importance of culturally responsive training. Listeners will gain a better understanding of how Two Chairs is transforming mental health care by ensuring clients find the right therapist for their specific needs and continually measure treatment progress.

00:00 The Broken Process of Finding a Therapist

01:04 Introducing Two Chairs: Revolutionizing Therapy Matching

01:52 Meet Colleen Marshall: Chief Clinical Officer at Two Chairs

02:44 Colleen's Journey in Mental Health and Innovation

06:22 The Importance of Therapeutic Alliance and Matching

10:17 How Two Chairs Ensures Effective Therapy

16:53 Challenges and Successes in Implementing Measurement-Based Care

28:56 Balancing Wellness and Specialty Training

29:23 Efficient Care and Graduation Goals

31:03 Insurance and Access to Therapy

32:04 Therapist's Role in Client Progress

33:52 Matching Clients with the Right Therapist

36:07 Navigating Therapy Models and Approaches

47:13 Two Chairs: Availability and Process

51:11 Future of Therapy and Cultural Responsiveness

53:36 Conclusion and Final Thoughts