51 High-Intensity Training Across the Globe with Simon Shawcross

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Adam Zickerman is joined by personal trainer, author, and speaker Simon Shawcross to discuss the state of high-intensity training methods across the globe. What are the different philosophies associated with high-intensity training and some of the commonalities regarding this protocol as practiced around the world.
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51 High-Intensity Training Across the Globe with Simon Shawcross Transcript

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SPEAKERS

Tim Edwards, Simon Shawcross, Adam

Simon Shawcross 00:06

Putting a little bit of reality into exercise and there are opportunities for people like you know, here inform in Manhattan to walk off the street and walk into a place where they're going to be really well looked after, and that that is replicated and can be replicated even more around the world. Can you provide your client with an experience that reinforces the positive impact of a high intensity training workout.

Tim Edwards 00:34

Hello, once again, inform nation we certainly appreciate you joining us here for episode number 51 of the inform fitness podcast, Tim Edwards here with the inbound podcasting network and a longtime client of inform Fitness. Today, the founder of inform Fitness in New York Times bestselling author Adam Zickerman is joined by Simon Shawcross. Now one of the first things you'll notice about Simon is that he flew across the pond to spend some time with Adam. He's a fellow high intensity personal trainer based out of London, in addition to his personal training, Simon is a weight loss coach and the co author of the book, the one diet, Simon can be found traveling around the world and speaking to corporations as a wellness expert. So in this episode, Simon and Adam will discuss the state of high intensity training methods across the globe. What are some of the different philosophies associated with high intensity training, and, of course, some of the common threads regarding this protocol as practiced around the world.

Adam 01:33

Hello, everybody. Welcome to the show. This is kind of cool. This is kind of impromptu, get together. I have with me today, Simon Shawcross. He's from across the pond, Simon works with a lot of trainers all around the country. He's a, he's an educator, and he has some really valuable insight, I think, because he talks to people like me, all around the world, people that are advocates for high intensity training. And because he's talking to so many different people, we'll be interesting to see their takes on high intensity training, and if there's any variation of a theme that we can learn from. So so welcome to the show, Simon.

Simon Shawcross 02:09

Thank you, Adam. Hi, Tim. Hi, everyone who's listening.

Adam 02:13

So Simon, as I said, you've been around the world interviewing entrepreneurs, high intensity enthusiasts, researchers, scientists, doctors, about high intensity training. We've just spoken about my philosophy, even you visited our gym for a while, we talked about what we do, how we do it. And my listeners, for the most part, know our approach. So what's different out there? What were the variations? What are people doing? That might be slightly different and interesting, how they approach whether it be from an exercise physiology point of view or training point of view, or maybe even from a business point of view? You can go wherever you want with this to start, and we'll take it from there.

Simon Shawcross 02:53

Okay, well, I think I'll start off with a fairly recent conversation with Dr. Doug McGuff.

Adam 02:58

Okay

Simon Shawcross 02:59

about exercise into middle age and beyond, and looking at things like myokines and the research that is being done about really, effectively a young science. It's only about 10 years old, now and just showing the impact that muscle tissue has on the human physiology and the fact that is no longer looked as like a sort of set of dumb fibers of the nervous system act on. Now we can look at it as a accretionary organ that has hugely beneficial effects and implications.

Adam 03:31

So muscles are accretionary organ. And one of those things that you just mentioned myokines,

Simon Shawcross 03:35

myokines absolutely yeah

Adam 03:36

so what are those things that secretes myokines,

Simon Shawcross 03:38

which in myokines just go out and send signals to other muscle cells. And in some cases, cells around the body telling them to do certain things, effectively telling them to get fitter and to get better and more capable. So that's that's one aspect of the stuff we're learning nowadays is we've always known how much of a positive impact this has. But we're also now learning how much of that positive impact and how that occurs. So we can perhaps explain it better in the future to our clients as well.

Adam 04:09

So what about myokines? So let's get into these myokines a littl

Simon Shawcross 04:12

sure

Adam 04:13

what was Dr. McGuff, talking about them and saying,

Simon Shawcross 04:16

effectively saying that when you cause the release of myokines, what you're doing is you're sending this very strong signal to the body to certain organs, to get stronger to get more capable to send in some some situations. an anti tumor message with myokines have been shown to have a positive impact on certain answers. So it really is how the human physiology responds to strengthening exercise at a cellular level. Okay, so we come from behind NC, both of us, we come from a high intensity training community. And I tell you in the past, this community has been quite rigid sometimes about what exercise is. And probably that's a very understandable reaction to kind of what goes as being fitness out there in the wider in the wider world

Adam 05:12

right

Simon Shawcross 05:13

Because you know, anything you can throw at a wall and sticks gets promoted and sold as exercise out there. And you know, if you've got if you go out and your purpose is to go and have fun, fine. But we also know that to create a really positive physiologic adaptation, we want the intensity to be high enough. And if we're going to make the intensity relatively high, we also want to do it safely. So we have longevity behind this. And I think what we've been seei...