Brian Harder - The Price of Admission

Breaking Trail

Today's guest is a return guest, my friend Brian Harder. If you're a regular listener, you know that Brian has been on the podcast many times. And today, we talk about the price of admission to the wilderness. We are not talking about permits and park fees. I should preface this by saying that we don't proclaim to be experts and most of this is simply opinion. We don't really have any solutions, but we hope that we provoke some thought and conversation the next time you're sitting around a table having a glass of wine with some friends.

Brian is a former Exum Mountain Guide and is currently an orthopedic physician assistant. This is an important context to give you an idea of where his background is and where he's coming from. So we talked about ebikes as sort of a microcosm to this bigger concept of the price of admission to the wilderness, meaning that if you are willing to pay a lot of money, but maybe not put in a lot of sweat equity, you can still access some of the most remote areas of wilderness, without the effort, but with the money, but maybe you get less return less reward. And how does that make everybody else feel and how does that change the experience for everyone as a whole.

We started off with the ebike situation as an example and then we launched into guided mountain climbing as well as guided backcountry skiing and what that means for the broader experience and access to the wilderness.

“You cannot stay on the summit forever; you have to come down again. So why bother in the first place? Just this: What is above knows what is below, but what is below does not know what is above. One climbs, one sees. One descends, one sees no longer, but one has seen. There is an art of conducting oneself in the lower regions by the memory of what one saw higher up. When one can no longer see, one can at least still know.” ― Rene Daumal

So with that, let's listen in and gear up for what's next.

Where to find Brian: Instagram: brian.skimolife

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