Can AI Really Build Enterprise-Grade Software? | Maor Shlomo & Base44

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

AI coding is great for demos, but can it handle production apps?
On this episode of AI Native Dev, Maor Shlomo, founder of Base44, joins Guy Podjarny to share how he built one of the first “batteries-included” AI app builders and what it reveals about building real software in the age of LLMs.
They dive into:
• why less complexity helps LLMs perform
• how Base44 ships apps with databases and integrations built in
• what smaller, high-context teams can do that big ones can’t
• the path from vibe coding to agentic applications
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Kapitel

1. Trailer (00:00:00)

2. Introduction (00:00:57)

3. Operation and choice of stack (00:02:54)

4. Target audience (00:11:11)

5. Learnings from non-devs (00:13:09)

6. Behind the scenes at Base44 (00:19:22)

7. What devs don’t notice about AI (00:23:33)

8. LLM guardrails (00:25:47)

9. Specs and tests (00:29:29)

10. Creating documentation (00:35:03)

11. Team members (00:37:16)

12. The future of devs (00:41:51)

13. Everyone building agents (00:45:12)

14. Long-term differentiation (00:47:04)

15. Top advice for today’s developers (00:52:46)

16. Outro (00:55:10)