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E94: Is AI our next nuclear threat? With Joshua Steinman and Nathan Labenz
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Joshua Steinman, former military officer who served as Deputy Assistant to President Trump and Senior Director for Cyber (2017-2021), now co-founder of Galvanick, joins Erik Torenberg and AI scout Nathan Labenz for a discussion on the AI arms race. They focus on US-China relations, the rate of AI development, and the global implications of a technological arms race.
Should the US and China work together to prevent a future of AI-powered warfare, or is a conflict inevitable?
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🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics.
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References mentioned:
- Systems Confrontation and System Destruction Warfare: How the Chinese People's Liberation Army Seeks to Wage Modern Warfare
- 2024 Global Threat Report | 2024 Cyber Threat Report
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@JoshuaSteinman
@eriktorenberg
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:16) Reflections on previous episode
(03:31) Discussion on AI and Energy Concerns
(05:57) AI Arms Race Concerns and China's Plans
(09:49) Distributed Training and Rhetoric
(12:10) Ashenbrenner Model and Benefit Sharing
(15:54) Josh's Experience with Trump and Media Misrepresentation
(18:22) Public Perception of Trump and Media Bias
(23:07) Reasons for Disparaging Trump and the Dynamics of Power
(28:41) China's Nature and Response to China
(31:08) AI Concerns, Energy, and Corporate Power
(36:02) Tail Risk, Slaughterbots, and Political Power
(38:27) Arms Reduction Treaties and Reality
(42:05) Decommissioning Nuclear Weapons and AI Arms Race
(45:32) Semiconductor Policy and AI Future
(47:35) Slaughterbots, AI Control, and Trust-Building
(50:18) Olive Branches and China's Leadership
(51:52) Rand Corporation Report and Private Speeches
(55:13) The Declining Barriers to Entry in Violence
(58:48) Einstein Quote and Nuclear Weapons
(1:00:36) Wrap
103 episoder
Manage episode 437274061 series 3430078
Joshua Steinman, former military officer who served as Deputy Assistant to President Trump and Senior Director for Cyber (2017-2021), now co-founder of Galvanick, joins Erik Torenberg and AI scout Nathan Labenz for a discussion on the AI arms race. They focus on US-China relations, the rate of AI development, and the global implications of a technological arms race.
Should the US and China work together to prevent a future of AI-powered warfare, or is a conflict inevitable?
--
🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/
--
SPONSORS:
💻 Building an enterprise-ready SaaS app? WorkOS has got you covered with easy-to-integrate APIs for SAML, SCIM, and more. Join top startups like Vercel, Perplexity, Jasper & Webflow in powering your app with WorkOS. Enjoy a free tier for up to 1M users! Start now at https://bit.ly/WorkOS-Turpentine-Network
🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/zen
💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
--
RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics.
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast
--
References mentioned:
- Systems Confrontation and System Destruction Warfare: How the Chinese People's Liberation Army Seeks to Wage Modern Warfare
- 2024 Global Threat Report | 2024 Cyber Threat Report
--
Follow on X:
@JoshuaSteinman
@eriktorenberg
@turpentinemedia
--
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:16) Reflections on previous episode
(03:31) Discussion on AI and Energy Concerns
(05:57) AI Arms Race Concerns and China's Plans
(09:49) Distributed Training and Rhetoric
(12:10) Ashenbrenner Model and Benefit Sharing
(15:54) Josh's Experience with Trump and Media Misrepresentation
(18:22) Public Perception of Trump and Media Bias
(23:07) Reasons for Disparaging Trump and the Dynamics of Power
(28:41) China's Nature and Response to China
(31:08) AI Concerns, Energy, and Corporate Power
(36:02) Tail Risk, Slaughterbots, and Political Power
(38:27) Arms Reduction Treaties and Reality
(42:05) Decommissioning Nuclear Weapons and AI Arms Race
(45:32) Semiconductor Policy and AI Future
(47:35) Slaughterbots, AI Control, and Trust-Building
(50:18) Olive Branches and China's Leadership
(51:52) Rand Corporation Report and Private Speeches
(55:13) The Declining Barriers to Entry in Violence
(58:48) Einstein Quote and Nuclear Weapons
(1:00:36) Wrap
103 episoder
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