22. our flag means death & ao3 shipping wars (w/amanda & amber)

Fangirl Central

WE TALK IT THREW AS A CREW. we’re talking our flag means death s2 e1-3, how we process emotions through high concept worlds and characters, the archive of our own (ao3) shipping bracket drama, & boundaries with media consumption. 🏴‍☠️💜

*OFMD S2 SPOILER CENTRAL* 16:38 & beyond (+trigger warning: character suicidal ideation)

HOSTS: Amanda (@amandalaynemiller) + Amber Miller (@amberlmiller)

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 intro

• who’s amanda and who’s amber
• skye sweetnam

4:37 OUR FLAG MEANS DEATH IS BACK

6:41 amber JUST watched ofmd

9:30 atla is also a slow burn

9:47 amber is in pain abt blackbeard

he’s the kraken

10:44 misunderstood characters & being unable to express your emotions in a healthy way

• no one will ever understand me
• stubbornly sitting in my sadness
• being a menace is ed’s coping mechanism

14:13 making sense of emotions thru high concept stories/fantasy & sci-fi

16:38 SPOILER CENTRAL/trigger warning: suicidal ideation — FROM THIS POINT ON

18:45 ed doesn’t understand unconditional love

20:00 stede vs. ed’s fantasies

• they love each other for who they are 😭

21:52 our reactions to lucius and black pete’s reunion!!!!!

23:37 ao3 shipping bracket breakdown

24:30 ed/stede vs. steve/bucky DRAMA

• FRAUD!!!!
• fandom history!!!!??!!
• canon ships are weaker than headcanon ships!!!

26:03 amanda reads out dramatic screenshots

27:41 AMANDA RANTS @ steve/bucky and ten/rose shippers (she’s one of them)

30:00 ofmd and good omens resparked fandom

31:00 there’s annoying fans in EVERY fandom

32:20 shipping is not that serious

• edward vs jacob
• don’t judge people based on their ships
• there are extreme cases

33:50 wincest (we haven’t seen supernatural)

34:51 projection on fictional characters has a limit

36:51 is it “cringe” or neurodivergent?

• ofmd using fanfic tropes
• outwardly weird and queer and nd fans
• we can’t hide on tumblr forever

40:11 fix-it fics save the day

41:30 everyone on ofmd is hot as hell in a queer way

44:00 it is WEIRD to be a fan period. stop trying to disassociate from “weird” fans.

47:47 we need queer cultural stepping stones

49:00 “name a hobby outside media consumption”

• nuance
• jocks vs. nerd mentality

53:00 wrap-up

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