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Discover the premier and original podcast dedicated to wildland firefighting, the vibrant culture surrounding wildland firefighters, firefighter mental health and physical performance, and the wilderness - The Anchor Point Podcast... Join our global community as we delve into the captivating stories of Wildland Firefighters, shed light on career opportunities, promote fire prevention awareness, educate the public, and openly discuss the mental health struggles and triumphs faced by firefight ...
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Reframing Our Relationship With Fire Through Mentorship And Stewardship With Dr. Sasha Berleman
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People have lived collaboratively with fire, and fire has brought and supported life since time immemorial. This was something Dr. Sasha Berleman heard when she was a young adult enrolled in an educational program at a nature reserve that her grandmother used to take her to. This sent her on a lifelong journey to explore and educate others on livin…
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On The Line And In The Ring: Fighting For Strong Relationships With Chase And Sammy Worthington
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Explore the thrilling intersection of firefighting and professional boxing in this captivating episode. On today's show, Chase and Sammy Worthington stop by to talk about what it takes to make a strong, lasting relationship through their personal experiences with a wildfire career and a professional boxing career. Chase Worthington, a Squad Leader …
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The Humanity Behind Wildland Firefighting Through “Hotshot” With Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann
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When discussing or covering wildfire situations, most people and media outlets focus more on their destruction rather than the humanity behind it. In this episode, Brandon Dunham sits down with Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann to discuss the making of his cinematic masterpiece documentary "Hotshot," which tells the story of some of the most elite, the most…
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All Hands, All Lands: Stanislaus National Forest’s Decade-Long Journey To Confront The Wildfire Crisis With Benjamin Cossel
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It’s high time we confront the wildfire crisis head-on while looking at forest health from a holistic point of view. In this episode, we talk with Stanislaus National Forest Public Information Officer, Benjamin Cossel, about the MASSIVE undertaking of a historic fuels reduction and prescribed fire project called the "Initial Landscape Investments t…
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How Technology Can Save Lives In Fighting Wildfires With Andy Bozzo
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Wildfires are getting bigger and bigger every single year. Those 100-year fires are now happening at intervals of five or ten years, and they are much deadlier to handle. Andy Bozzo wants to arm wildfire fighters with the right technology to give them a much safer time eliminating this kind of fire, saving many lives in the process. This is where T…
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Green Buffalow: ChangingThe One-Size-Fits-All Game Of Wildland Firefighting PPE With Korena Hallam And Summer Hurd
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Despite the changes we have made, would you believe that PPE hasn’t been changed in 30 years? It continues to be governed by antiquated rules that no longer best serve what we need today. In this episode, Korena Hallam and Summer Hurd from Green Buffalow dive deep into the changes we need to see, especially when it comes to the different needs betw…
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Saving Lives: Gear, Skills And Training For Worst Case Scenario Readiness With J.T. Sohr
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If you happen to be a bystander as an emergency situation takes place, would you rather be the person who just stands by helpless and clueless, or the person who happens to be trained and equipped enough to save the day? Today we’re talking about saving lives, and we have the perfect person to talk to us about the importance of having the right gea…
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Understanding Wildfire Culture From A Human Perspective With Ben Iverson
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Beyond the massive destruction caused by wildfires are the people who risk their lives just to put them out. In this episode, Ben Iverson of the Forest Service shares with Brandon Dunham a glimpse of the wildfire culture beyond the protocols and into its relatable human aspects. He talks about their project Meta Review, which looks back on the comm…
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Fueling The Fire: Nutrition And Policy Changes For Wildland Firefighters With James Shelley
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Nutrition plays a vital role in the well-being and performance of wildland firefighters, shaping their physical and mental resilience in the face of demanding and dangerous conditions. In this episode, we continue the previous discussions around human performance and nutrition. This time, we look into the policy changes for how our wildland firefig…
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Whole Body Wellness: The Simple Secrets To Health, Nutrition, And Human Optimization With Paul Tijerina
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In this episode, we’re going to talk about whole body wellness, and we have just the right guest to speak to that. Paul Tijerina is a master health coach with expertise in functional nutritional therapy and primal health. And boy does he have compelling stuff to share! As hotshots, it is part of our job to make sure we’re consistently operating in …
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Overcoming Adversity: The Journey To Mental Health And Healing With Jay Walker
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Welcome to the The Anchor Point Podcast, episode 117 with Jay Walker, a wildland firefighter from Wells, NV. Jay has served on multiple wildland firefighting crews, including Ruby Mountain Hotshots, Jackson Hotshots, and Elko District Engine Modules. He is currently the acting superintendent of Ely Helitack, based out of Panaca, Nevada. In 2020, Ja…
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Nevada Fire Aviation with Jeremy Seng, Alec Goicoechea, Lucas Rhea, and Melissa Fry
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Welcome to Episode 119 of The Anchor Point Podcast, where we take a deep dive into the world of wildland firefighting and the culture that surrounds it. In this episode, we'll be discussing the crucial role of aviation and aerial firefighting operations in Nevada, featuring guests from different aspects of the industry. Join us as we delve into the…
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"Nevada Hotshot and Handcrew Superintendents Tell It How It Is" with JP, Chase, Justin, and Kris
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Welcome to The Anchor Point Podcast, episode 118! In this episode, we delve into the world of wildland firefighting with a focus on the Nevada Bureau of Land Management Handcrews and Interagency Hotshot Crews. Our guests for this episode include JP Blair, Justin Zabala, Kris Bruington, and Chase Maness, all experienced Hotshots who have worked on t…
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"Heli-Ops? With A Fire Engine?" And More With Truett, Austin, Elliot, And Chris From The NV BLM Fire Engine Program
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Welcome to the The Anchor Point Podcast, episode 117! In this episode, we dive into the world of wildland firefighting with a focus on the Nevada Bureau of Land Management Fire Engines program. Joining us are Truett, Elliot, Chris, and Austin, who share their experiences and insights into the unique capabilities that the program offers. We explore …
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Q & A with Assistant Director of BLM Fire and Aviation - Grant Beebe on Pay, Classification, and Other Issues
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The Anchor Point Podcast Episode 116 with, Grant Beebe, Assistant Director of BLM Fire and Aviation. On today's episode we will be discussing Wildland Firefighter Pay Parity, Classification, Mental Health Issues, and much more... The wildland firefighting workforce is currently facing a number of challenges, and these issues are the focus of The An…
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"Want To Be A Stud At Running?" with: Lucas Garrett, Founder of Landsharks Running Company
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Welcome to The Anchor Point Podcast episode 115 with: Lucas Garrett, founder of Landsharks Running Company. In this episode, Lucas shares some important running tips and tricks, such as proper recovery, the importance of sleep, why supplements and PEDs are dumb, and how to become an overall better runner... Lucas was a football player who wanted to…
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The Hotshot Up Foundation with Anthony Powers
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Welcome to another episode of The Anchor Point Podcast! In today's episode, we have special guest, Anthony Powers, a former hotshot hailing from Southern California. He has risen through the ranks to become a Captain with the Forest Service, and is now serving as a firefighter for the city of Burbank, CA. Anthony is also the President of the non-pr…
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Pay and Classification Budget Proposal Updates with Grassroots Wildland Firefighters & NFFE
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Wildland firefighting is a difficult but necessary job, and the Grassroots Wildland Firefighters Union (GWFF) and National Federation of Federal Employees Union (NFFE) have made it their mission to bring about changes for better pay and classification for wildland firefighters. Wildland firefighting can be incredibly dangerous and there's no room f…
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Sex, Relationships, and First Responders with Destiny Morris, AMFT
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Full disclaimer, this episode is pretty NSFW (Not Safe For Work)! Lets be honest with ourselves for a hot second - The topic of sex is pretty taboo... Many folks out there tend to shy around the subject, and even worse: They don't communicate to their partners about the subject. This can cause problems in the bedroom, which can cause other issues w…
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"F*** Cancer" - with Kaleena and Matt Lynde
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The Eldorado National Forest is in the house, again! Today on the Anchor Point Podcast: We have the fire "power couple", Kaleena and Matt Lynde, to talk about some of the lesser known career paths in wildland fire, working as a public information officer, fire aviation, and to tell the story of overcoming this shitty thing known as cancer... Kaleen…
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A Deep Dive Into Wildland Firefighter Culture with Matt Carroll and Jody Jahn, PhD
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Wildland firefighters are a unique bunch... Especially when it comes to the culture, and how we interact with "outsiders", our mission, and with each other... That's why we have Matt Carroll and Jody Jahn on the show today to talk, more in depth, about the "Deep Dive" project by the USFS and how it can reveal some insights about why we make the dec…
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Science, Education, And "Life With Fire" With Amanda Monthei
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Today on the show: Former wildland firefighter, Amanda Monthei, stops by to discuss her wildfire podcast with a podcaster and former wildland firefighter, who podcasts about wildfire... Its like inception, but with wildland fire podcasts? 🤣 But seriously, a lot has changed in the last three and a half years since Amanda was last on the Anchor Point…
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"From: Drop Out - To: Tanker Pilot" With Zach Sullivan
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Its not too often you hear about someone who's made a career path from being a front line wildland firefighter, to someone who is dropping fire retardant on wildfires, to someone who is coordinating the whole aviation show as an Air Attack... That's why we have Zachary Sullivan on the show today - To tell his story of his unique experience of his c…
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Hold The Line Fly Fishing With Jon Engle
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There is something about the healing properties of nature, water, and fly fishing with good people... That's why I'm pumped to have Jon Engle on the show today to talk about the Hold The Line Fly Fishing organization - An organization that specializes in getting people struggling with PTS and PTSI out on the water, and getting people to embrace nat…
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Wildland Firefighter Personal Finance, Windfall Events, and Not Making Dumb Decisions - With John Cullen
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Its not easy to NOT make that rash decision to go out and blow your hard earned back pay, and future pay supplements, on that new "overland rig", 6 bottles of high grade bourbon, a new rifle, optic, and god knows whatever vice you have... And yea... Before you ask, I know its hard... 'Cause I've been there - And also, this pay supplement may not be…
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Fire Lunches SUCK! - Fire Nutrition With Michelle Yurick
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Dialing in your nutrition can be extremely challenging for a tactical athlete, especially for a wildland firefighter during the fire season - The lunches absolutely suck, MRE's are probably nutritionally devoid, and you oftentimes find yourself eating a bunch of gas station food like a raccoon eating out of a dumpster... That's why we have Michelle…
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The Wildland Wellness Foundation with Melissa Moore and Thomas Wurm
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Melissa Moore is a former wildland firefighter, Hotshot, Smokejumper, and the founder of the Wildland Wellness Foundation - An organization that specializes in healing mental health issues through ancestral medicines... Thomas Wurm is the founder of Mountain Mind Tricks - An alternative therapy and mental health optimization practice that specializ…
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"Do The Work, Don't Take Any S***" With Makenzie Gould
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Being in a very male dominated profession, women in the firefighting profession typically have a unique set of challenges to face... That's why we have Makenzie Gould on The Anchor Point Podcast today to talk about her career, her ideal nutrition, her fitness routine, making career choices that are advantageous, following your heart, and her ways o…
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Grassroots Wildland Firefighters & National Federation of Federal Employees Infrastructure Bill Discussion
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Today - June 21st, 2021: The entire federal wildland firefighting workforce FINALLY got some good news about the Bipartisan Infrastructure Act and the pay raise that comes along with it... That's why we have two of the major players in the game on the show to discuss all of the pertinent information, and how it effects the "boots on the ground". Sp…
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AWE And The Smokey Generation With Bethany Hannah
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Wildland firefighters tend to be a magnanimous, larger than life, and compassionate crowd... Our stories, legacies, triumphs, and tribulations are oftentimes passed along through a very tribal, and (almost exclusively) verbal means. That's where The American Wildfire Experience comes in... To catalog and preserve this verbal history through digital…
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"The Game Has Changed" - Episode 100 With Nelda St. Clair And Ron Bollier
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Our very first guest on The Anchor Point Podcast, Nelda St. Clair, is back on the show for episode 100! Nelda is a former wildland firefighter who's worked her way through the ranks, and ultimately help bring about the CISM program. On this episode: We revisit her history, her background, and the updates to the CISM programs she has helped pave the…
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The Great Exodus Of Wildland Fire With Bre Orcasitas
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Former Smokejumper and Hotshot, Bre Orcasitas, is on the show to talk in greater detail about her (extremely well written) article called, "The Great Exodus"... Today on the show: Bre goes into greater detail on why wildland firefighters are leaving federal service at an unsustainable pace... "The Great Exodus" is an incredibly well written exposé,…
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There is a very legitimate fear when it comes to reprisal and retribution within the federal workplace. It may not be every wildland firefighter that may experience it, but many have... That's why we have wildland firefighter, Pedro Rios, stops by on the show today to tell his story about reprisal, the lawsuit, and the lengthy process to resolution…
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"From Alaska With Love" - Part 2 With Micah Booze
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Micah Booze is a wildland firefighter, modern philosopher, and entrepreneur from Alaska... Micah has some awesome insight and wisdom on fire leadership, networking, and looking at things from a different perspective... He's also an expert level Big Lebowski fan. He's also the brains behind the scenes at "The A.S.S. Movement" - A company founded on …
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"From Alaska, With Love" - With Micah Booze Part 1
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Micah Booze is a wildland firefighter, modern philosopher, and entrepreneur from Alaska... Micah has some awesome insight and wisdom on fire leadership, networking, and looking at things from a different perspective... He's also an expert level Big Lebowski fan. He's also the brains behind the scenes at "The A.S.S. Movement" - A company founded on …
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"Don't Let Your Friends Self Destruct" With Jesse Morelock
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Wildland firefighting tends to have a very "work hard, play harder" mentality surrounding the culture... And unfortunately, the "play harder" can be the part that gets the best of people. Lets all just take a step back to our own shoes for a second and really analyze the culture... Now that you've thought about it a little; it seems like drinking a…
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Life Outside of the Federal Service w/ Monica Tanner
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Ask yourself this question, and answer it honestly: Have you ever thought about leaving federal service? If you have, did it invoke a feeling of anxiety? Are you scared that you will lose "street cred"? Are you too comfortable with what you do now to pursue other things? Are you always trying to get that coveted perm position? Are you apprehensive …
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The Wildland Firefighter Foundation With Burk Minor
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Today on the show, I have the honor to sit down with Burk Minor from the Wildland Firefighter Foundation™ to talk about how the organization was started, the mission that they fulfill, the legacies of men and women they preserve and honor, and the what the future of the organization looks like... Burk has an amazing vision for the Wildland Firefigh…
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An Epic Ride Part 3 w/Kevin Conley
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Former Snake River Hotshot, Kevin Conley, stops by to talk on part 3 of his epic bicycle journey across the United States to raise awareness for mental health and fundraise for the Wildland Firefighter Foundation... We last spoke with Kevin when he was in Pensacola, Florida on the last leg of his journey across the southern tier bike route. Now we …
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An Epic Ride Part 2 w/ Kevin Conley
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Former Snake River Hotshot, Kevin Conley, stops by to talk on part 2 of his epic bicycle journey across the United States to raise awareness for mental health and fundraise for the Wildland Firefighter Foundation... We first spoke with Kevin when he was just crossing over the state line from New Mexico into Texas... And in almost 2 short weeks, he …
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An Epic Ride - Part 1 w/ Kevin Conley and Rocky
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Former Snake River Hotshot, Kevin Conley, stops by to talk about the first part of his epic bicycle journey across the United States to raise awareness for mental health and fundraise for the Wildland Firefighter Foundation... To follow his journey, check out his socials here: https://www.instagram.com/backcountryninjas/ To donate to the cause, vis…
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Close Calls and Real Talk w/ Emily Parnaby
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At some point in your wildland firefighting career, you may come face to face with your own mortality... And unfortunately, these brushes with life and death could have long term mental health consequences. Today on the show, we talk about these very subjects with someone who has had one of these close calls... Emily Parnaby is a 9 year veteran of …
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Two Yellow Lines w/ Zac Titus
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If you haven't seen the new "fire" movie, "Two Yellow Lines" - You need to stop what you're doing, and watch it... This isn't necessarily a "fire" movie in the context of actual "firefighting", but more along the lines of the inconvenient truths about the mental health components that can be associated with a fire career... The most incredible part…
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Mental Demob w/ Shannon Mead
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Well folks, its about that time to start calling it dunzo for the season... With that comes a whole new set of challenges - The boredom, the part where you have to explain to the "normies" what you do for work, the awkward reintegration into your own family, figuring out what you're going to do during the winter, the holidays, where you're going to…
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"This Career is Stressful" w/ Josh Simmons
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It doesn't matter if you're a GS3 or a GS "Fantastic" - This job is stressful! And if you're high up on the chain of command, it doesn't mean you're insulated from these stressors... Today on the show: Josh Simmons stops by for his second time to talk about the stressors everyone experiences with a gnarly fire season, winding down for the off seaso…
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Community, Duty, and Integrity w/Jeff Dupras
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Being a Division Chief is a difficult job... Especially when your forest has been on the receiving end of catastrophic fires for the past five years... Thats why we have Plumas National Forest Division Chief, Jeff Dupras, on the show today to talk about his experiences. Jeff has 31 years in the wildland fire service, and has seen a lot of change ov…
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"Six Minutes for Excellence" w/ Thomas Wurm
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Thomas Wurm stops by for his second appearance on the show to talk about mental health, mastering the mind body connection, optimizing peak human performance, and his upcoming new book, "Six Minutes for Excellence"... Thomas Wurm is a wildland firefighter, author, publisher, and podcaster. He is a certified Master Practitioner in NLP (Neuro-linguis…
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Redmond Hotshots w/ Gabe Mason and Jordan Gulley
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As a Redmond IHC alumni, I cannot begin to explain the incredible experience that I had with Redmond Hotshots. So, that's why I have Superintendent Gabe Mason and Asst. Superintendent Jordan Gulley from Redmond IHC sit down to chat about one of the four Leadership Training and Development Hotshot crews in the nation... In August 1960, the Washingto…
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"Wildfire Fire Saved My Life" w/ Mark Booker
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Ronald Mark Booker Jr. is an air attack and former Plumas Hotshot smokejumper from Venice Beach, CA... His entry into fire is not your "traditional" wildland firefighter story... His entry into the wildland firefighting scene in the 90's, was through the California Division of Forestry's youth authority program. Through this program, Mark developed…
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Wildland, Municipal, and Mental Health w/ Steve Orr
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Today on the show, we take a deep dive into the relationship between municipal and wildland fire, and how the two can learn an immense amount of skills from each other... More importantly, we talk about the critical importance of taking care of your mental health... Here is a little bit more about Steve: "Steve Orr is a 22 year veteran of the fire …
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