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The Waiting Room Revolution

Hsien Seow and Samantha Winemaker

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This podcast can help anyone dealing with serious illness. Over the years, we have cared for and interviewed thousands of patients and families who tell us they felt overwhelmed and ‘in the dark’ during their illness journey. Yet we sometimes heard stories where individuals felt prepared, in control and ‘in the know.’ What was the difference between these experiences? The answer is the 7 keys. Join your hosts Dr. Samantha Winemaker, palliative care doctor, and Dr. Hsien Seow, health care res ...
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Dr. Karen Wyatt, hospice physician and author of "7 Lessons for Living from the Dying," interviews experts on all aspects of the end-of-life, including: caring for the dying, funeral and burial practices, planning for the end-of-life, conscious dying, grief and loss, caregiver support, afterlife, death and the arts, and community initiatives to improve end-of-life care. Access show notes at www.eolupodcast.com
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Learn about a beautiful, sustainable option for disposition of ashes after death at the base of a memorial tree. My guest Gillian Nye has served at the Forest Memorials Manager at Better Place Forests for the past 6 years. She helps families create meaningful, nature-centered ceremonies that honor their loved ones in a unique and sustainable manner…
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Learn about a unique postgraduate program in Scotland that offers a global and cultural context to end of life studies for a diverse group of students. My guest Marian Krawczyk is a medical anthropologist interested in the culture of health, illness and medicine, particularly in relation to the end of life. She is the Lead Convenor for the End of L…
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Learn how a funeral director who is also an end-of-life doula merges “head and heart” in her work to help people prepare for the end of life. My guest Christa Ovenell is a licensed funeral director, an end-of-life doula, and the founder of Death’s Apprentice Education & Planning. She shares how she helps people think about, talk about, and prepare …
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Learn why you should start a death collaborative in your community and tips for getting started. My guests this week are members of the Minnesota Death Collaborative and will share how the collaborative was created, including tips for others who might like to start a similar collaborative in their community or state. Michelle Kolling is a hospice v…
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Learn how death and grief are portrayed in pop culture through this new series that analyzes theater, film and music, starting with the Broadway musical Dear Evan Hansen. Trigger Warning: This episode contains references to suicide and grief after suicide so use your own discretion if these are sensitive topics for you. If you are struggling with t…
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Learn how a palliative clinician and a researcher are helping to create a social movement for improving the patient and family experience of serious illness. This week I’m welcoming Drs. Sammy Winemaker and Hsien Seow, creators of The Waiting Room Revolution and authors of the book Hope for the Best Plan for the Rest. Sammy is a palliative care phy…
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Learn about some helpful episodes from the EOLU Archives that can show you how and why to start teaching others about death and dying. This week I’m sharing another “Podcast Playlist” which is a topic-focused deep dive into the archives of EOLU. I have created several anthologies of episodes that deal with specific subjects to make it easier for yo…
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Learn some tips and tools for offering support to family caregivers tending a loved one on hospice. My return guest Gabby Jimenez is a hospice nurse, end-of-life doula, death and dying educator, author and blogger. She is the author/co-author of numerous books, including Dignity Day and The Doula Tool Kit and the host of The Hospice Heart community…
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Learn how a home funeral guide and an aqua cremation provider collaborate to help families care for a loved one’s body after death. My two guests this week are collaborators who work together to ensure that their clients can access family involved deathcare: Trina Wacasey is an end-of-life doula, home funeral guide and the founder of Creating Honor…
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Learn about a book of quotes gathered by a compassionate oncologist from deep conversations with her patients. My guest Dr. Christina Gomez is a gastrointestinal medical oncologist at Banner MD Anderson Cancer Center. She is the author of the book Stopped in My Tracks: A Physician’s Collection of Cancer Patients’ Quotes, which she discusses today. …
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Learn all about end-of-life doulas from this comprehensive deep dive into the archives of EOLU Podcast! This week I’m sharing a new feature: the “Podcast Playlist” which is a topic-focused deep dive into the archives of EOLU. I’ve created several anthologies of episodes that deal with specific subjects that might interest you. This is to make it ea…
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Learn about a guidebook that teaches how to offer appropriate nutrition for a loved one approaching death. This week I’m welcoming my recurring guest and friend Barbara Karnes RN, hospice nurse, author, thought leader and expert on end-of-life care and the dynamics of dying. Barbara is the author of Gone From My Sight, “the little blue book” used b…
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Learn about a grief book that combines personal experience with expert advice and a touch of humor. My guest Dina Gachman is a Pulitzer Center grantee, an award-winning journalist, and a frequent contributor to the New York Times, Texas Monthly, Vox, and more. She wrote her second book So Sorry for Your Loss: How I Learned to Live with Grief and Ot…
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Learn about the importance of sacred rituals and practices at the end of life. This interview was recorded several years ago with Kitty Edwards, a shamanic practitioner, public speaker, published author and master teacher. She served as the director of The Living and Dying Consciously Project and as the co-founder of The No Regrets Project. Kitty’s…
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Learn about a helpful tool for organizing all your records and files for your later years and your loved ones. My guest Maria Fraietta is the founder of The Nokbox, which is a complete system that helps you organize all of your accounts, possessions, social media presence, communities, kids, pets, personal history, and estate plans. Maria is a form…
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Learn how this hospice doctor’s important research sheds light on the dreams and visions of the dying and why they are meaningful. In this interview from the archives of EOLU my guest is Dr. Christopher Kerr who currently practices at Hospice Buffalo in Buffalo, NY. He is conducting a research project on the dreams and visions of his patients as th…
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Learn more about the continuing bonds theory and various ways it is beneficial for grievers. This special episode is a follow-up to the previous interview with Dina Stander about the phone of the wind. I’ll take a closer look at the Continuing Bonds theory of grief to see how using a wind phone might actually be helpful for grief. I’ll share excerp…
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Learn how the “phone of the wind” can help us establish continuing bonds with our loved ones who have died. My guest Dina Stander is an end-of-life navigator, funeral celebrant and burial shroud maker. She is also the founder of the Northeast Death Care Collaborative, an author and a propagator of phones of the wind, which she discusses today. Lear…
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This episode we chat with Dr. Julien Abel, retired palliative care physician, Director of Compassionate Communities UK, author and podcaster. In this episode we talk about what compassionate communities are, what a public health palliative approach looks like and what community support of serious illness should look like. To learn more about Compas…
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This episode we chat with Dr. Diah Martina, an internal medicine doctor in Indonesia. Diah also has per PhD focusing on culturally sensitive advance care planning in Asia. In this episode we talk about what culturally sensitive palliative care looks like in Indonesia, what her research has shown about adapting conversations about dying and planning…
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Learn how two creators each facing serious illness came together to produce an award-winning masterpiece. My guests Christina Holbrook and Walker Vreeland are joining me today to talk about their personal stories of serious illness and facing mortality in the midst of working on a creative project. Numerous synchronicities and little miracles came …
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This episode features Dipti Purbhoo, Executive Director of the Dorothy Ley Hospice, one of Ontarios oldest Hospices. We chat about the synergy between hospice services and the Waiting Room Revolution, innovative ways hospices partner with community agencies and how Dororthy Ley Hospice is working to be truly integrated upstream in an illness journe…
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Learn about a senior living community that is bringing end-of-life doula training to residents, thanks to the efforts of its chaplain. My guest Tom Waknitz is a chaplain and end-of-life doula who is working with Walker Methodist Senior Living Community to establish a unique end-of-life program for residents called Passages. He is certified by INELD…
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This episode features our conversation wtih Lisa Levin, CEO of Advantage Ontario. We chat about how Advantage advocates for seniors quality of life, housing policy that promotes aging in place and what other countries are doing to innovate aging. Learn more about Advantage Ontario here: https://www.advantageontario.ca/ For more information visit: w…
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Learn about a powerful NY Times bestselling memoir that teaches how acknowledging our mortality helps us live a more authentic life. My guest Alua Arthur is the founder of Going With Grace, a death doula training and end-of-life planning organization. She is a frequent guest on television and radio and has been featured on CBS’s The Doctors and in …
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Happy Caregivers Month! This episode features our conversation with Amy Coupal, the CEO of the Ontario Caregiver Organization. We chat about the services and resources OCO offers, Amy's own caregiving experience and the essential role caregivers have within the healthcare system. Learn more about the Ontario Caregiver Organization here: https://ont…
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Learn about an innovative model for compassionate end-of-life care that meets the needs of individuals and communities. My guest Dr. Bob Uslander is the co-founder, with his wife Elizabeth, of Empowered Endings, a unique palliative and end-of-life care model addressing the physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual needs of patients and famili…
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This episode features our conversation with Eliza Munro and Kelly Clark, who are palliative care educators and consultants on IPEPA. IPEPA stands for Indigenous Program of Experience in the Palliative Approach, which is a grass roots approach to breaking down barriers to palliative care for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples across Austr…
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Learn about Rosie Grant’s unique project to memorialize those who have died by cooking their special recipes. My guest Rosie Grant has a library science degree from the University of Maryland and now works at UCLA as an archivist. She is well known on social media as a “cemetery tiktoker” who researches recipes found on gravestones in cemeteries ac…
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This episode features our conversation with Daniel Nowoselski, Advocacy Manager for Hospice Palliative Care at the Canadian Cancer Society. We discuss being a lobbyist for the palliative care community, policy issues and challenges in the health care system that the Canadian Cancer Society are trying to address, where his passion for palliative car…
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Learn how planning ahead for after-death care can help loved ones with grief and loss. My guest Jokotifa Alaye is a licensed funeral professional and NEDA certified end-of-life doula with a focus on grief. She created Mourning Space to fill the gaps in education and support that society requires for healthy grieving. She discusses the importance of…
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This episode features our conversation with Dr. Kerrie Noonan, clinician psychologist, social researcher, founder and innovator. We talk about death and grief literacy in Australia and around the world, what it is and why it is important and how it really is a community endeavor. Learn more about Kerries work here: https://www.deathliteracy.institu…
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Learn how a physician creatively meets the needs of patients who don’t qualify for hospice services. My guest Dr. Kaishauna Guidry is an author, podcaster, healthcare advocate, mentor and educator. She came to medicine and hospice later in her career and founded Mourning Dove Medical as a private mobile medical practice, serving home-bound patients…
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This episode features Dr. Red Hoffman, a trauma surgeon who is board certified in hospice and palliative medicine from Asheville, North Carolina. We talk about her upcoming TEDTalk, her life experiences and how she got to where she is now and experiencing emotions as a surgeon alongside caring for your patients. Learn more about Reds work here: htt…
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Learn about a movement with a goal to train 1 million death doulas around the world. My guest Suzanne O’Brien RN is the founder and CEO of Doulagivers Institute and a pioneer in the global death doula movement. She was awarded Worldwide Leader in Healthcare by the International Nurse Association and named Humanitarian Ambassador for Oprah Magazine …
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This episode features the Hon. Lisa Raitt, former Cabinet Minister and Member of Parliament from 2008 to 2019 and caregiver to her husband Bruce. Bruce was diagnosed with young onset Alzheimer's disease during the pandemic. We talk about their experience with diagnosis, how the seven keys can be used for caregivers and what policies can help caregi…
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Learn about an informative and inspirational book to help seniors find love in their lives after experiencing loss through death or divorce. My special guests this week, Drs. Gloria Horsley and Frank Powers, are a senior couple who met later in life, after experiencing loss. Gloria is a marriage and family therapist and Frank is a psychologist so b…
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Learn how the concept of human-centered design can improve how we care for people at end of life and also how we operate our businesses. My guest Isabel Knight is a human-centered designer and end-of-life guide who founded The Death Designer to provide design services for deathcare businesses and non-profits. She is also the president of the Nation…
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Learn about a powerful international model that calls for a public health approach to end-of-life care and how we are championing it in the U.S. This week I am hosting three guests who are my collaborators in a “think tank” on the Compassionate Communities Model: Elizabeth Johnson and Erin Collins of The Peaceful Presence Project and Qwynn Galloway…
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Learn about THE LAST ECSTATIC DAYS, a film about a young man with brain cancer in search of community, and the hospice doctor who gives up everything to honor his dying wish. My guest Dr. Aditi Sethi-Brown is a hospice and palliative care physician, end-of-life doula, and musician. She is the founder and executive director of the Center for Conscio…
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Learn about grief from the perspective of two hospice providers on their personal experiences of loss. This week I’m happy to be speaking once again to my recurring guest Barbara Karnes RN, hospice nurse, author, thought leader and expert on end-of-life care and the dynamics of dying. Barbara is the author of “the little blue book” used by hospices…
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Learn about contemplative practices for medical providers offered by the NY Zen Center for Contemplative Care. My guest Koshin Paley Ellison is an author, Zen teacher, and Jungian psychotherapist. He co-founded the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care, which offers contemplative approaches to care through education, personal caregiving, and Z…
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Learn how an innovative curriculum is tackling loneliness and social isolation in older adults and bridging the generation gap. My guest Dr. Jeremy Holloway is Assistant Professor and Director of Geriatric Education at the University of North Dakota. He discusses his research which focuses on the social determinants of health, specifically self-eff…
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Learn about a trilogy of documentary films that inform and inspire conversations about death, dying and the afterlife. My guest Johanna Lunn is an award-winning producer, director, and writer, who has crafted many compelling, entertaining, and profoundly thought-provoking programs during her 20+ years in the business. She is the director and produc…
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Learn about a helpful new tool kit that’s not just for end-of-life doulas but can benefit anyone who cares for others at the end of life. My three guests this week, Diane Button, Gabby Elise Jimenez, and Angela Shook, are all end-of-life doulas who have teamed up to create a helpful guidebook for other doulas: The Doula Tool Kit: The Complete Pract…
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Enjoy this deep and soulful conversation with “The Griefwalker” Stephen Jenkinson. My guest Stephen Jenkinson is the author of the award-winning book Die Wise: A Manifesto for Sanity and Soul and the creator and principal instructor of the Orphan Wisdom School. He discusses the Nights of Grief and Mystery project, which he created with singer/songw…
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Learn how hospice chaplains can offer support to people who choose medical aid in dying. My guest Dr. Terri Daniel is an inter-spiritual hospice chaplain, end-of-life educator, and grief counselor, who is the author of four books on death, grief and the afterlife, and a frequent guest on the podcast. Today Terri and I talk about medical aid in dyin…
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Learn tips for choosing the best hospice and asking all the right questions. This week I welcome back my recurring guest Barbara Karnes RN, hospice nurse, author, speaker, thought leader and expert on end-of-life care. She is the author of ‘the little blue hospice book, Gone from My Sight and the recently published By Your Side: A Guide for Caring …
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Learn what it actually means to “hold space” for others during times of challenge. My guest Amy Wright Glenn is a Kripalu Yoga teacher, birth and death doula, hospital chaplain, and prenatal yoga and wellness instructor. She is the founder of the Institute for the study of Birth, Breath, and Death, known for its teacher training programs. Amy is th…
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In this special brief episode I’m bringing you an invitation from casting director Kim Clevenger to contact her about appearing in a new docuseries on grief and loss. She is looking for people experiencing grief over any type of loss who are willing to share their journey with others in this series. In the recording she explains a bit about the sho…
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