Podcast of Mark Shayler at Ape. Works with businesses to do things better and do better things. Founder of innovation and sustainability company, Ape. Founding partner of the Do Lectures and Green Lab. Author of Do Disrupt: Change the Status Quo or Become it.
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Climate change narratives are everywhere! But what's the deal with it? Shifting the Narrative is a podcast by Enviral exploring the importance of communications and the shifting narrative needed to solve our global challenges. We'll talk to business leaders about their journeys, and how the organisations they work for are leading the sustainability conversation.
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Frank Adlington-Stringer is standing for Mayor of the East Midlands. I hope he gets it. He has a suite of great ideas that will boost the economy as well as the ecology.This is a heart-warming conversation about Frank, his upbringing and his vision. We touch on grandparents, favourite smells, and how we love the Midlands. Disclaimer: I'm not a memb…
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Now That's What We Call Music.The best tracks of 2023 by Mark and Pete
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2023 was a decent year for music. In our annual ramble about what we did and dint like we pulled out our favourite 11 tracks each (I know, neither of us are sure how that happened).Have a listen to our re-cap of last year.If you want to listen to the full playlist it is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0aJevK011RrY9V8KJ8Znnw?si=50543222e2974…
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We had an inspiring conversation with Poku Pipim Osei, the founder and CEO of Babbasa during our latest podcast recording. Babbasa is a Bristol-based social enterprise supporting young people from disadvantaged communities with their career aspirations. Joss and Poku explore what it means to truly diversify our workplaces and the unique circumstanc…
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We were thrilled to record our first live podcast recording for Shifting the Narrative at Goodfest this year. Joss sat down with Merlin Hanbury-Tenison, the co-founder of Cabilla Cornwall. Cabilla is a pocket of paradise located amongst the wild beauty of Bodmin Moor in Cornwall. This rewilded landscape is a testament to the restoration of ecologic…
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In this latest episode of Shifting The Narrative, we had the opportunity to catch up with Asher Clark, Co-Founder, and Design Director of Vivo Barefoot. Asher's passion for promoting natural, human movement while upholding sustainability and functionality has been the driving force behind the creation of Vivobarefoot. Teaming up with his cousin, Ga…
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Helena Price Hambrecht: change and chapters
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Helena is an incredibly successful photographer, the co-founder of a drinks company, a business mentor and one of the kindest humans i've ever met. Her child smelled of dirt and hard work. Making the most of what she has is the raspberry ripple that runs through the ice cream of her life.This is a wonderful conversation, rich with insight around br…
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Kerri Kelly: Get off the mat and change something, maybe everything.
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I met Kerri in the warm Californian sun and it was an instant connection. We've been friends ever since and we have both grown in that time. This is a joyous and love-filled conversation about her journey, leaving people behind (sometimes when they are taken away) and the need to heal and repair society (and how this starts inside). A genuinely upl…
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We caught up with our good friend and agency partner, Vineeta Greenwood in this latest episode. Vineeta is the co-founder at Wholegrain Digital who are a London-based WordPress agency. They work to create the best websites in the world, helping to accelerate the shift to an Internet that’s good for people and planet. Tune in to this conversation wi…
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We caught up with Tessa Wernink at the end of last year. Tessa is a changemaker and activist and helps businesses be as impactful as possible through her consultancy The Whole Works. She is also the Co-Founder of Fairphone one of the coolest organisations leading the change in the smartphone industry. Now Tessa runs The Whole Works and the undercov…
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Rusty Egan is one of the most influential DJs ever. He chose the music that went on to shape and define the movement that became the New Romantics. It was music for misfits. Inspired by the German band Kraftwerk, Bowie and American bands like Devo, Rusty chose the soundtrack to the post-punk movement that shaped a generation. His choices influenced…
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Founder of the iconic Cornish brand Finisterre, Tom Kay joins us on this very special episode. Sharing stories from the early days of the brand, what he has learned along the way, as well as how Tom has kept purpose at the heart of Finisterre, all whilst honouring local traditions - this episode is a memorable one. Joss and Tom talk about the resto…
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What would the world be like without artists?
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Jess was a much bigger influence on my life than she realised. One of a group of art students that i met when i moved to London for my placement year in 1990.Jess is an artists that works with geometry and nature. Sustainability runs through her like "Blackpool" through a stick of rock.This is a rich conversation about the value of art in society, …
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What's it like inside SHELL and do they actually care about climate change and renewable energy? In today’s episode of Shifting the Narrative, filmed during Blue Earth Summit this year, Joss talks to Caroline Dennett. Caroline is a social scientist with 20+ years’ experience as a researcher and insight consultant and gained fame in the sustainabili…
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Tenzing Energy founder Huib Van Bockel joins us in Amsterdam to discuss the mission behind the all-natural energy drink, and how they are disrupting the market. From building a running app to putting bins in Everest base camp and Tenzing being mentioned in the Lucozade office, we get the inside view from the drinks brand. Find out what motivates Hu…
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Using creativity to address the climate crisis. In this episode we're joined by Chrissy Levett, the founder of Creative Conscience, a global organisation that encourages, trains and rewards creative thinking for social and environmental impact. We'll hear about impact, how Chrissy became involved in shifting the narrative around creativity and how …
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Putting the Pop into Art, and Art into Pop
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Malcom Garrett is a design legend. This is a wonderful and rich conversation about his work for bands including The Buzzcocks and Duran Duran. But more than that it is a conversation about the very nature of design and creativity. There is much in here that made me think but this line "you can't do good work for a client that doesn't want it" reall…
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Sometimes you need a leader: A conversation with Creative Conscience's Chrissy Levett.
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Chrissy is extraordinary. A firebrand and a passionate campaigner for the power of creativity in solving the world's environmental problems.To me creativity is simply imagining a world that hasn't arrived yet, and you wouldn't imagine a worse one would you? Chrissy is on a mission to bring the World's creative industries together to and use their c…
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Creativity, business and the climate crisis. We've pulled out all the stops for our first episode and we're joined by the incredible Mark Shayler. Consultant, speaker, founder of APE and a force of positivity and kindness, Mark is truly one of the most inspirational people in business and sustainability. We'll hear about what mistakes business is m…
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Focused on how communications, business and creativity can address the climate crisis, and what business leaders are doing to shift the narrative within their sectors. 🌿 We hope that no matter who you are, you get some valuable nuggets of information from some of the most influential people in business. We'll be joined by some of the most exciting …
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From Dirty Sanchez to mushrooms (not that kind).
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Matt Pritchard is a diamond. One of life's good guys. He's a professional stuntman, skateboarder, one of the founders of Dirty Sanchez, and author of two vegan cookbooks. His story is as beautiful as it is gnarled. We cover running, growing-up, picking-up rubbish on his morning walks, getting up early, veganism, cooking, finding a different meaning…
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Another in my occasional chats with my mate Pete Davies about music. In this one we each pulled together a playlist of the songs we think we play the most (not measured at all) and why. It was fascinating. Particularly the reasons why. We agreed on Stone Roses 'Fools Gold', who wouldn't?I have a PRS licence.…
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How to strike oil, olive oil. A conversation with co-founder of Two Fields Will Rolph
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Will and his brother Harry are accidental olive farmers and purposeful entrepreneurs. They bought two fields with 200 olive trees in and now sell the finest olive oil I have ever tasted. But more than that. They are part of a community now. Their feet and hearts deeply embedded in the soil of Zakros. They want to do good and spread good. Their appr…
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Real Hackney Dave: How chaos breeds creativity and the gift or respawning.
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Wow, I loved this chat. It was like sitting down with a mate from school. A self-proclaimed "useless kid" who sat under the table and drew. Dave died at 14. Properly died. Left for dead by the ambulance drivers until his Mum suggested they try and "get him going again". And boy did he get going. A trailblazer in advertising. Each agency he started …
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Mira Manek is a cook, an author and a wellness consultant. In an earlier life she was a journalist but following a series of trips overseas was able to see herself more clearly. She returned to the UK and changed what she did. She wrote two beautiful books 'Saffron Soul' (a cookbook) and 'Prajna: Ayurvedic Rituals for Happiness'. In so doing change…
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Sara Cohen: Getting wetter makes you better.
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Meet my friend Sara. Designer and company builder. Sara started as a marketeer in London before legging it off to Australia. We talk about mid-90s London, changing career, her love of the freedom water brings, what it feels like to submerge yourself in a city after being a dive master, and starting a business that brought pattern to life. After a c…
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The Best Tracks Of 2021. Mark Shayler And Peter Davies
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It's now become a tradition. Pete Davies and I sit down at the end of each year and discuss our favourite new music. This was a great conversation. Pete's choices were all chill and soulful, mine were a little angrier and shoutier. Take a listen to the chat and a snippet of the music. Don't worry we have a PRS licence. There is an accompanying spot…
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From market trader to business leader.
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Wayne Hemingway started-off selling clothes. He and partner Gerardine sold all their clothes on Camden Market in order to make ends-meet. They had started something bigger than them. Their stall grew and grew and became a shop then a company then a worldwide brand. Now they run Hemingway Design with their children and are the people behind The Good…
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Charlie Gladstone: Building a team - how to get the best from everyone.
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Charlie Gladstone has built many teams, many teams that have built great businesses. In-fact I'd say that Charlie is the best team-builder I know. It's people that make a business, not a business plan. Charlie has just written a great and concise book on how to build teams. In this podcast we talk about how to do this.Audio engineer: Mark Cotton.…
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The idea was a simple one - delve deeper in to the minds of the people and their processes behind the music. We asked each artist to select one of their own tracks to go under the microscope.Our third and final colab podcast with the Reasons To Be Cheerful crew features Sarah Cosgrove from Low Girl. Sarah started writing songs at the age of 12 usin…
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Lee Vernon - Psych rocker: Moving minds and feet.
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Back in March 2021, we pulled together a line up of three artists to celebrate the one-year anniversary of the Morning Communion hosted by the Reasons To Be Cheerful Crew and now we're making these available via three special colab podcasts.The idea was a simple one - delve deeper in to the minds of the people and their processes behind the music. …
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ENNE - Nakisha Esnard: Blender x RTBC - The people behind the music.
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This is the first of three collaborations with Blenders. We talk to musicians about the music they may, why they make it and how. The first is with the marvellous ENNE. ENNÈ [N] is a Soul Singer & song creator with mixed cultural influences that blends sounds of Reggae, Soul, Jazz, Funk and whatever else can be thrown in the mix. Enne will captivat…
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The Best Tracks Of 2020 With Peter Davies
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2020 was a year to remember. but what were you listening to? What were your stand-out tracks? My mate Pete Davies and I belatedly sat down and discussed out favourite tracks of last year. Then I belatedly sent to to my good friend Mark Cotton to clean up. So, four months into 2021 I present to you the best tracks of 2020 plus a load of chat.PRS Mus…
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A legend in his lunchtime. Tony Mulgrew making dinners that make a difference.
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Tony is a professional school chef with a passion for quality local British produce in schools. This started in Northern Ireland through the necessity to shop frugally. Short on money but rich in love Tony was sent to get a bone for the dog, they didn't have a dog. Tony took the lessons learnt and applied them at scale. He is changing school dinner…
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Kiss The Ground with Finian Makepeace
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Finian Makepeace had a dream. It was more of a nightmare and it changed what he did. Finian spent the next seven year developing a film, an education program and a campaign to change the way that we farm. He started Kiss the Ground with his friend Ryland Engelhart and they have produced one of the most impactful films about agriculture, ever. Along…
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Mark and Pete's Christmas Playlist
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Pete Davies and I sat down over Zoom to discuss our Christmas playlists. Here is our discussion with short snippets of the songs we discussed.We have a PRS licence for music in podcasts.You can listen to the podcast on Spotify here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0WY1JFk40SD4LaFE0K0wMv?si=IYS33J2mS4GCxIMSWLl9Vg…
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Ashtin Berry: activism and alcohol.
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Ashtin Berry is incredibly articulate. With her words and with flavours. She's a bartender, one of the best. but more than that, an entrepreneur, a campaigner, and a leader. This is an unbelievably powerful conversation. We talk about flavours in the deep South, her family, the Great Migration, levels of racism, fairness, activism and equity. We ta…
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Naomi Devlin: Growing up wild.
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Naomi is a self-taught chef. She is a teacher and chef at River Cottage. She grew up in a commune. She grew up in a collective. She grew strong as a result. Ity takes a village to raise a child - literally. This is a lovely conversation that travels from the edges of society to the centre and back again. She is an author and has written about gut h…
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Simon White. How lung cancer made me nice.
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Simon talks us through his journey, from poverty trap to strategist. Simon's childhood was free-range. Climbing trees and riding bikes. He helps people up trees (metaphorically) and occasionally gets stuck up them (metaphorically and physically). Simon's life changed with a diagnosis of lung cancer. In his own words, this, and the birth of his daug…
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Tasting Home: Marie Mitchell on soul and food.
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Marie is a chef. She uses food to create soul, to bring people together, and she gave away a part of her to someone else. A kidney. This is one of the most beautiful and moving conversations I've had. It oscillates from adidas pop-up trousers, to Caribbean fruits, to dancing. Marie is one half of the Island Social Club a pop-up food and drink club …
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Libby Delana: Navigating the world from your backyard.
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Av Mark Shayler's podcast from the Woodshed.
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From tech start-up to chef: How a trip to India changed everything.
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Av Mark Shayler's podcast from the Woodshed.
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Mike Garry: Morrissey used to come round our house.
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I first heard Mike Garry on his beautiful ode to Anthony H Wilson. You know the one - Saint Anthony. It made Number 1 in the charts. It featured Manchester's finest, it features strings, it was beautiful. At that point I didn't know Mike. I met him a year or two later at one of the best festivals I've been to, The Good Life Experience. I stood and …
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A chat with Alex Lawrence. Bartenders are philosophers, counsellors, friends. They also mix drinks
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Alex Lawrence is a bartender, a drinks brand owner, a rebel, a funny and inspiring man, and he shines so brightly. This conversation swings from his time in a band, rebelling in private school, living in Aberdeen and being a young "trash-bag", moving to work in the World's best bar, mental health and bartending, and ultimately becoming the World's …
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Lucie Sheridan is an artist. She sees things in people that they don't see in themselves.
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This is a belter of a podcast. Sadly marred by poor sound: acoustics, differential volumes of interviewer and interviewee, and some weird distortion. But the conversation is too good not to go out. Lucy is a truly great artist and one of the kindest people i've spent time with. We cover some creative ground and we cover some crunchy ground. Her str…
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Jonathon Smales: Dirt under your nails part two
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The second part of my conversation with the visionary Jonathan Smales. We pick-up as he left Greenpeace and hatched a plan to build the Earth Centre on an old coalfield in South Yorkshire. Not too far from where Jonathan grew-up.Av Mark Shayler's podcast from the Woodshed.
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Jonathon Smales: You've got to have dirt under your nails. From coal to Greenpeace.
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Jonathon is a leader in sustainability and always has been. One of the heavyweights of sustainability and was there from the start. We met nearly three decades ago and he continues to inspire me and everyone he has contact with. we talk music, fashion, sustainability and so much more. We travel from coal to an old open-cast coal mine in South Yorks…
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Matthew Bagwell. Always running. Towards enoughness.
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I love that Gil Scott Heron track “Running”. The one that says “I always feel like running, never away because there’s no such place”. All the way through this talk with Matt of Seven feet apart that track was running through my head. This is a lovely conversation about shoes, making stuff to last, and the benefits of running. Never away, but towar…
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Meet Mills. An eclectic and energetic conversation with Mills from Ustwo.
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Mills set up Ustwo with his best mate. It's boomed. Mills is a beautiful man. The way he expresses himself, the way he talks, the love that shines from him is unique. This conversation oscillates from weight-loss and strength, to hyperactivity, to yoga, to dyslexia, to shame, to identity, to extremes.This is a lovely conversation that ebbs and flow…
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Never turn your back on the ocean: Sophie Thomas on the power of design.
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Sophie Thomas is a designer with a business brain or a business person with a designer's brain - i'm not sure which but it really doesn't matter. She pioneered thinking on circular economy and how designers are the solution to so many things. We also talked about what defines us, how school can lift us or bury us, and how good will always float to …
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40 years early: Conversations with one of the original eco-warriors.
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I met Jonathon 20 years ago this year. At about this time. At an incredible building in Austria where the Sound of Music was filmed. Jonathon has lead on sustainability from the beginning. From when the first roots of the "green" movement began to poke through. This shows extraordinary foresight and bravery. He has both. This bravery was supremely …
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