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How I Learned to Love Shrimp

Amy Odene & James Ozden

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How I Learned To Love Shrimp is a podcast showcasing innovative and impactful ways to help animals and build the animal advocacy movement. We talk to experts about a variety of topics: animal rights, animal welfare, alternative proteins, the future of food, and much more. Whether it's political change, protest, technological innovation or grassroots campaigns, we aim to cover it all with deep dives we release every two weeks. Subscribe and please do share with any interested folks! You can a ...
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Better by Great Place To Work

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Better is a podcast series from Great Place to Work, the global authority on workplace culture. Each episode offers tips, strategy, and advice from experts and executives who strive to make their workplace culture a top priority because they know it’s ultimately better for their people, better for business, and better for the world. Learn more at greatplacetowork.com
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Rune-Christoffer is an impressive person. In addition to being almost 10ft tall, he led the Vegetarian Society of Denmark’s efforts in getting the Danish government to invest over 110 million Euros in plant-based foods and develop an Action Plan to boost plant-based foods in the country. Given this is one of the most significant policy wins the ani…
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In this heartfelt episode, I sit down with journalist, speaker, and podcast host Ellen McGirt to discuss the intricate balance of caregiving and maintaining a career. Ellen shares her personal journey as a member of the sandwich generation, caring for both her family and three vulnerable adults. We explore the emotional and logistical challenges ca…
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Giulia Malerbi is attempting to prevent octopus from being intensively farmed for food. As head of Global policy at The Aquatic Life Institute, Giulia’s important work aims to stop intensive octopus farming before it even begins and has hopefully contributed to the passing of some groundbreaking legislation to support this ban. A really refreshing …
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Wu Hung trained as a monk before his journey into animal advocacy began and it is these teachings in the ‘inconsistencies of life’ that led him to believe he could change the future for animals in Taiwan. Through liaising with government officials, top business people and the general public, as well as predictable pushback from the industry, naviga…
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Léo Le Ster is a campaigner at L214, a French NGO focused on helping farm animals. Léo talks to us about L214’s creative campaigning tactics and the importance of open and collaborative brainstorming when it comes to generating new ideas. Léo gives us an update on the state of the movement in France and insight into their organisation with a multi-…
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In this short 10 minute clip we announce a brief hiatus and use this time to chat through some episodes we want to highlight which we recommend checking out in the short break. We also have a small ask of our listeners - please could you fill out this feedback form so we can best understand how and if to take the podcast forward? It should take aro…
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Mahi Klosterhalfen from Albert Schweitzer Foundation brings us exciting progress for animals in Germany. Mahi walks us through his work on cage-free, broilers and also now fish and shrimps and why Germany seems to be one of very few countries where meat consumption per capita is declining. We also dive into some thought provoking questions around r…
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Tania Luna brings us a wealth of knowledge this week as she walks us through the best working practices of organisations seeking to support animals that must integrally include the human animals that work to protect others. Tania’s team apply their wealth of experience in the tech space to the animal advocacy space supporting organisations to prior…
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An absolute treat of an episode this week as we were asked to interview long-time advocates Leah Garcés and Sharon Núñez, live from the Animal and Vegan advocacy summit in Washington DC in May earlier this year. From anger in Leah’s 20’s to some eye opening potential prison-time in the past for Sharon, our esteemed guests walk us through their expe…
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Long overdue conversation on the important topic of fish this week with the lead for fish at Eurogroup for Animals, Doug Waley. Doug’s expertise lies in working for fish at the EU level however most of the episode is filled with important information relevant to fish farming across the globe. It’s a technical one but really insightful as we explore…
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Matthew and Jane co-founded the online campaign Veganuary in 2013, which has encouraged millions of people across the globe to try being vegan for the month of January and beyond. More recently, Matthew launched Veg Capital, an organisation that provides early-stage capital to companies striving to replace the use of animals in our food system and …
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Sofia Balderson is the co-founder of Hive, formerly known as Impactful Animal Advocacy, an organisation that aims to improve coordination and collaboration in the farmed animal movement through cultivating impactful, intentional, and serendipitous communities Many listeners may be on the Impactful Advocacy Slack – a Slack workspace with over 2,000 …
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Short but sweet episode this week from Ignacia, author of a recently released book, CEO of a leading organisation in Latin America and mother to two small kids. We're delighted that Ignacia took time out to talk to us about her experiences right across her contributions for animals. We chat about Fundacion veg and their campaigns in both diet chang…
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Bob Fischer is the Senior Research Manager at Rethink Priorities and Associate Professor of Philosophy at Texas State University. Can insects feel pain? Should people who care about chickens, cows and pigs also care about reducing the suffering of crickets or black soldier flies? In this episode with Bob Fischer from Rethink Priorities, we try to a…
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Stepping outside of our comfort zones is where growth begins. As Monique Herena, chief colleague experience officer at American Express, puts it, change is both necessary and challenging. She offers practical strategies for helping leaders navigate change, and what to do with leaders who aren't on board. She also shares how American Express has nav…
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Kristie Middleton is vice president of business development for Rebellyous Foods where she and her team help institutions add more plant-based options to their menus. Kristie’s also the author of MeatLess: Transform the Way You Eat and Live—One Meal at a Time and a long-time animal advocate. Rebellyous Foods has created novel manufacturing technolo…
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Feeling stuck? It might be your fear of failure. Amy Edmondson, Novartis professor of leadership and management at Harvard Business School, joins us to talk about her new book, “The Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well”— the 2023 Business Book of the Year. Renowned for her research on psychological safety, Amy talks about failing well, …
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Jaya is a seasoned operational executive with a rich history of promoting animal welfare in the food retail sector. As the Co-founder and Chief Program Officer of Global Food Partners, a Singapore-based multinational consulting firm, he helps food and hospitality businesses implement their cage-free egg policies across Asia and reduce the cost of c…
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Ric Campo and Keith Oden, CEO and president, respectively, of Camden Property Trust share their approach to building a company culture centered around care. This philosophy has boosted employee engagement and satisfaction, and contributed to the company's business success. We explore how Camden fosters a caring environment and how they've addressed…
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Lauren Mee is the CEO & Co-founder of Animal Advocacy Careers, an organisation that tries to match mission-aligned talent to opportunities that accelerate the end of factory farming. Lauren offloads all she knows about the hiring landscape right now when it comes to careers in animal advocacy. She talks us through some best practices and common pit…
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Feeling unseen and unheard at work? You're not alone. But what if your workplace felt like a place where everyone belongs and thrives? Join Yolanda Friend, inclusion & diversity lead at Accenture North America, as she shares powerful insights and actionable steps to create a more inclusive culture. From the importance of mentors and sponsors to the…
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Aaron Ross has spent over 20 years working for farmed animals. His relentless dedication to this cause has seen him co-found two major organisations, The Humane League and the Open Wing Alliance and train and advise countless others around the world on corporate relations and movement strategy. In this episode, we talk through an important topic, l…
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Michael Matthews, chief diversity and corporate responsibility officer at Synchrony, talks about the power of vulnerability among leaders, and how it can help build trust and create a more inclusive workplace culture. He shared how leadership is evolving at Synchrony, and what it means to be seen at work. And he opened up about how he built a stron…
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Description: Tomasz Herok recently spent over 5 months working undercover on British factory farms, as part of an investigation by Open Cages, the UK branch of Anima International. [Trigger warning: graphic descriptions of animals suffering on factory farms throughout the episode] In this episode we understand the complexities involved in being an …
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Tina Jones, senior VP of global HR at Cadence, walks us through how and why Cadence ties the top 100 leaders’ bonuses to their ability to create and support more equitable teams. She shared what every HR pro can do today to make inclusion groups — or employee resource groups — essential to the business. You’ll also learn what traits and skills she …
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Simon Newstead, entrepreneur turned impact investor, is a founding co-partner of Better Bite Ventures who back food-tech founders in Asia. In this episode, we deep dive into the world of alt protein and the different technologies available in the alternative protein space. We look at Asia specifically where Simon’s work is focussed as well as the c…
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Kelly Jones, chief people officer at Cisco, talks about how the company makes hybrid work successful for all teams -- and how you can do the same. Hear new research on the impact of return-to-office mandates, and the five questions people managers at Cisco ask in every check-in. Plus, she shared the secret to making the Fortune 100 Companies to Wor…
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In this episode, we speak to Wanyi Zeng, Executive Director of Welfare Matters, an organisation that is focused on building capacity for the farmed animal advocacy movement in Southeast Asia. We speak about the findings of Welfare Matters’ detailed and insightful report into the animal agriculture landscape in 6 key Southeast Asian countries, chall…
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Stien is the executive director of Animal Charity Evaluators, also known as ACE. Stien, wants to help people help animals and ACE tries to do that by finding and promoting the most effective ways to help animals. In this episode we speak with Stien Van Der Ploeg who is their fairly newly appointed executive director. We talk through the latest rele…
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Today, we speak with Monica Chen, the Executive Director of New Roots Institute, formerly Factory Farming Awareness Coalition. We speak about several big topics: Theories of change for the animal advocacy movement Why collaboration between organisations isn’t always easy, The importance of focusing on changing culture and social norms The difficult…
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Cameron is the executive director of Wild Animal Initiative, a nonprofit dedicated to improving the lives of animals by accelerating the growth of wild animal welfare science. In this episode Cameron helps us to understand the vast topic of wild animal suffering. Cameron makes the compelling case for why we should invest resources into understandin…
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In this episode, we speak with Josh Balk who is the co-founder and CEO of The Accountability Board. Previously, he was vice president of farm animal protection for The Humane Society of the United States. In addition, he is a co-founder of EAT JUST, a food technology company. We spoke to him about a promising new strategy that he’s trying out, whic…
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Aurelia is the Africa co-ordinator for the Open Wing Alliance where she supports African organisations with their cage-free campaigning efforts. In this episode Aurelia walks us through the state of the advocacy movement in Africa and the unique complexities of campaigning in this region. We hear Aurelia’s thoughts on progress in Africa and the imp…
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Give us feedback on the podcast via this form! It should take just a few minutes and it would really help us improve the show. Thank you in advance, we really appreciate it. In this episode, we speak with Ines Kostic, a Member of the Regional Parliament in the Netherlands for the Dutch political Party for the Animals and manager of Animal Politics …
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Neil Dullaghan is a Senior Research Manager in the animal welfare department at Rethink Priorities. Neil also holds a PhD in Political Science and is a fund manager of the Effective Altruism Animal Welfare Fund. In this episode Neil talks us through his policy research in the EU as well as other exciting projects and impactful research that Rethink…
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In this episode, we spoke to Karolina from Charity Entrepreneurship (CE) about the new animal charities they want to incubate in their next program (starting February 2024), what the benefit of joining their charity incubator is, as well as how they select which charities to incubate. If you’ve ever considered launching a charity to help animals, t…
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We interviewed Amanda Hungerford, Farm Animal Welfare Program Officer at Open Philanthropy. Open Philanthropy is one of the largest funders of farmed animal welfare, giving tens of millions of dollars each year. We spoke to Amanda about common misconceptions about Open Philanthropy's grantmaking, challenges with corporate campaigns, strategies that…
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Dr. BJ Fogg, founder and director of Stanford's Behavior Design Lab, and author of The New York Times bestseller, “Tiny Habits,” talks about how to change behavior in the workplace. He applies his behavior model to common workplace scenarios like listening better, making time to meet with your people, and persuade your boss to sign-off on a culture…
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We are celebrating our 10th podcast episode - Yay! To celebrate, we interviewed Andrés Jiménez Zorrilla from the Shrimp Welfare Initiative who inspired the name of our podcast, How I Learned to Love Shrimp. Shrimp Welfare Project is the only organisation solely dedicated to improving the lives of shrimp. In this episode we talk about the case for w…
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Alexi Robichaux, co-founder and CEO of BetterUp, talks about the most powerful way to recognize your people, the importance of inner work, and the connection between meaningful work and giving extra on the job. You’ll hear him talk about why we should stop thinking of management as supervisors and more as catalytic converters, and the three jobs ev…
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In this episode, we speak to Nikunj Sharma, the CEO of Mercy for Animals India. We spoke about: The work of Mercy for Animals in India, and their victories so far The considerations for animal advocacy organisations, like Mercy for Animals, to expand into new countries rather and how this trades off with the existence of local organisations. The sp…
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Carolina is the ​​founder and Executive Director of Sinergia Animal, an Animal Charity Evaluators’ StandOut charity working in nine countries of The Global South. Carolina has twenty years of experience in advocacy, fundraising, strategic planning, management, and campaigning. Before founding Sinergia, she worked in more than thirty countries as an…
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karol is the Content Director for Faunalytics who are dedicated to helping animal advocates improve the effectiveness and impact of their work through research and data. In this episode karol - a long-time animal advocate with a background in media, filmmaking, and investigative work - talks through Faunalytics most interesting research, and his re…
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Emre Kaplan is the Executive Director at Farmed Animal Protection Association in Turkey, the first farmed animal focussed charity in Turkey. In this episode, we talk through their organisation starting up, scaling and the lessons learnt along the way. We chat about their approach to activism in Turkey and the challenges they face working on these t…
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Jen Fisher, chief well-being officer at Deloitte, shares her burnout experience, signs she ignored, and the impact that workplace friendships and in-person connection have on our mental health, productivity, and retention. She talks about the No. 1 thing you should do before starting any well-being program, and how to help remote workers combat lon…
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Edie is the Managing Director and a Solicitor at Advocates for Animals, the first UK law firm dedicated to animal protection. In this episode, we chat to Edie about representing The Humane League UK in the up and coming court case challenging DEFRA. The judicial review case will see Advocates for Animals argue that fast-growing chicken breeds are i…
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Tim Richmond, EVP, Chief Human Resources Officer at AbbVie, and Michael C. Bush, CEO of Great Place To Work, talk about blind spots around culture, why listening is the No. 1 leadership behavior, and a new way of leading where leaders feel accountable for every manager down to the front-line supervisor. Plus, Tim and Michael share how they maintain…
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Eva is a co-founder and Operations Lead of Pax Fauna, a nonprofit that seeks to revitalize the grassroots animal advocacy movement through conducting original research on messaging, strategy, and culture. In this episode, we discuss Pax Fauna’s 18-month narrative research project where they conducted over 100 hours of interviews with 200 meat-eatin…
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Silvano Lieger is the Co-Managing Director of Sentience, a political animal rights and animal welfare organisation based in Switzerland. In September 2022, they ran a nationwide ballot initiative where all citizens of Switzerland could vote on one of the most important questions for animals: Should we ban factory farming? In this episode, we discus…
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Welcome to How I Learned to Love Shrimp, a podcast about (potentially) effective ways to help animals! In the episode, we (Amy and James) introduce the podcast, why we wanted to start it, things we want to cover and some of our views on important topics within animal advocacy. If you enjoy this episode, please share this with your friends, family a…
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