Trauma InJustice is a podcast about the ways that people in the criminal justice system confront and manage trauma. It’s also about the ways that training has aided (or failed) them and ought to be improved.
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'...he wasn't even a suspect." - Dr. Harry Krop
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In this, the Season 2 Finale, Chris and Alison speak with Dr. Harry Krop. Dr. Krop is a forensic psychologist who has been involved in over 2000 homicide cases as an expert witness and started the very first sexual abuse treatment center in Florida in 1977. We talk with Dr. Krop in-depth about two of the most high-profile homicide cases: Danny Roll…
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"Our system sucks. Our system can be sublime." - Gordon Bonnyman
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Chris and Alison sit down to speak with Gordon Bonnyman, co-founder of the Tennessee Justice Center. Mr. Bonnyman has practiced poverty law for 48 years. His work has spanned so many areas of the law we could not begin to cover them all - he's litigated nursing home regulations, prison conditions, hospital pricing abuses, confinement of children wi…
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Tempering Trauma: Two Perspectives on Trauma and Resilience in the Practice of Civil Law
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Chris and Alison partnered with Christie Bhageloe and Florida Legal Services to present a webinar. We edited the audio of that live presentation to bring you this episode. Our guests are Dr. Christie Monaghan and Tania Schmidt-Alpers. If you'd like to watch the actual webinar - and see us live in action - you can do so here on the FLS youtube. This…
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The university should be a place of hope." - Dean Jim Clark
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This is the second episode in which Chris and Alison speak with Dr. James Clark, Professor and Dean of the College of Social Work at Florida State University. You can review his impressive vita on the FSU COSW website here. Dean Clark is a forensic social worker and you can learn about the role of mitigation (and social workers), in the book he edi…
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"Take on the big questions, moral ethical questions, and try to live those out through becoming a professional." - Dean Jim Clark
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Chris and Alison speak with James Clark, Professor and Dean of the College of Social Work at Florida State University. You can review his impressive vita on the FSU COSW website here. Dean Clark is a forensic social worker and you can learn about the role of mitigation (and social workers), in the book he edited with Edward Monahan: Tell the Client…
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We just don't admit these kind of things go on. - Jonathan Harriford
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Chris and Alison sit down with Jonathan Harriford to discuss his experiences with a loved one who lives with a chronic mental illness and his involvement with the justice system (both civil and criminal). For a list of the Department of Children and Families resources related to the Baker Act you can visit their website. For information about a pat…
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Every single time I leave a member of my family I tell them I love them. - Frank Mackesy
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In this second episode featuring our guest, Chief Frank Mackesy, Chris and Alison talk about his time at the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. They discuss his training and how things have changed over the years.Av Alison DeBelder and Chris Moser
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The agency forgot about her. But I didn't. - Frank Mackesy
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Chris and Alison interview Chief Frank Mackesy in our first ever 2-part interview. We spent a lot of time talking with Chief Mackesy and the conversation was too good to cut down to just one listen - so this episode is the first of two. In this episode you'll hear our discussion of two high-profile cases in which he was involved. Chief Mackesy is t…
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Chris and Alison speak with Professor Carla Laroche, who developed and directs the Civil Rights and Racial Justice Clinic at W&L Law. Professor Laroche has her AB from Princeton, her MPP from Harvard, and her JD from Columbia. She previously was a clinical professor at Florida State University College of Law, where she founded and directed the Gend…
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Dealing with People on the Very Worst Day of their Life: Tara Wildes
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In this episode, Chris and Alison talk to Tara Wildes, the Director of the Corrections Division of the St. John's County Sheriff's Department. Director Wildes was also the director of the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Department of Corrections - the first woman to ever run that corrections system where she supervised over 800 employees. We talk abo…
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The Tables Have Turned: Alison and Chris Get Interviewed
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In this, the first episode of Season 2 of Trauma InJustice, Chris and Alison are in the hot seats. Who are Chris and Alison? Why do we do this podcast? How is our engineer, Chris Higgins, okay after listening to all of these recordings about the dark stuff we talk about? Give a listen to find out about the behind-the-scenes business of Trauma InJus…
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In the season finale, Chris and Alison talk to Alan Chipperfield, Capital Crimes Director at the the Public Defender's Office in Jacksonville, Florida. Al graduated from Washington and Lee and has been practicing law for 45 years: the vast majority of that spent defending people charged with murder and who face the death penalty. He also served as …
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Chris and Alison talk to homicide defense attorney Deb Billard. We discuss cases, child clients, restorative justice, and religion. Deb shares how she remains relentlessly positive, her loving relationship with clients, and the role of yoga and meditation in maintaining wellbeing in such a difficult job. These conversations are not appropriate for …
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Chris and Alison talk to criminal defense attorney Mandy Kuhn. Mandy has been practicing since 2005 and has represented people charged with almost every type of crime. She has exclusively worked as a public defender for her entire career, both in Florida and in Ohio. These conversations are not appropriate for children. People with their own trauma…
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Chris and Alison talk to groundbreaking criminal defense attorney Ann Finnell in this episode. Ann's work defending Brenton Butler was memorialized in the Oscar-winning documentary, "Murder on a Sunday Morning." She was also part of the defense team representing Casey Anthony. Ann is an expert in defending people who are charged with 1st degree mur…
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Chris and Alison talk to Diana Johnson, an attorney who specializes in representing children in the juvenile justice system. Diana is also a Florida Bar Board Certified Expert in Criminal Appellate Law. We discuss her work in private practice and as an assistant public defender and Diana shares healthy ways she's developed to deal with the stress s…
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In this episode, attorneys Chris Moser and Alison DeBelder interview Waffa Hanania. Waffa is an Assistant Federal Public Defender for the Middle District of Florida and has been practicing law for 30 years. Waffa touches on many aspects of a career dedicated to criminal defense work, including whether people can be made whole by the criminal justic…
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Chris and Alison interview solo practitioner Regina Wright (reginawrightlaw.com). Regina has been a criminal defense attorney for 30 years and has worked both as an assistant public defender and as a private attorney. We talk about these two types of practice, the importance of taking cases to trial, and about racial disparities in the criminal jus…
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Chris and Alison talk to criminal defense attorney Lewis Buzzell about defending people charged with murder and who are facing the death penalty. Lewis is the Chief Assistant Public Defender for the 4th Judicial Circuit in Jacksonville, Florida. These conversations are not appropriate for children. People with their own traumatic histories should b…
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Chris Moser and Alison DeBelder talk to Katherine Hinchey. Katherine is an attorney with the Public Defender's Office for the 4th Judicial Circuit in Jacksonville, Florida. She specializes in representing clients charged with sex crimes and talks about the challenges that are unique to her work. We also discuss some of the unique challenges faced b…
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Welcome to Trauma InJustice, a podcast where two friends (who are also lawyers), Alison DeBelder and Chris Moser, speak to people who work in the criminal justice system about traumas they've witnessed or experienced. The show explores specific examples of trauma and also the healthy and unhealthy ways that people have learned to deal with them.…
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