People Like Us are a cult-like pyramid scheme that produces music. They are based in Fremantle, Western Australia.
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Welcome to the People like us do things like this podcast. A weekly exploration of things that people like us might be into doing, being, hearing or knowing
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Twenty-five years ago, HIV/AIDS was a death sentence. And people living with HIV were shunned. It was as if the world didn’t care. Then, against all odds, filmmaker Jonathan Demme and stars Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington created the first mainstream Hollywood film about HIV/AIDS and homophobia, the first to give the disease a face and reveal the humanity of those who live with it. PEOPLE LIKE US: INSIDE PHILADELPHIA tells the story behind the story - how this remarkable movie got made and h ...
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People Like Us - S3 E17 Jen Mohindra - TCK Podcast
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18:06In a change to the usual format, in this episode your host, Jen Mohindra, describes what it’s like to be an adult third culture kid. Topics discussed include: - Restlessness and rootlessness - How to work out what security and stability mean to you - How to find your place in the world – a place that you can belong and a place that you can really c…
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In this episode, Kim is joined by executive producer Bradley Hope to talk about Project Brazen, their projects, and how the People Like Us podcast came about and why it matters. Throughout this first season, we also asked you to send us your questions about the show, the topics you heard and general questions about the Middle East and American fore…
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Bonus: People Like Us—The Creative Process.
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22:33A conversation with violinist Haig Papazian and designer Jamal Saleh. In this bonus episode, host Kim Ghattas takes you behind the scenes of the creative process of the music and the logo of the show, the identity and diversity within both. From the onset, Project Brazen and Kim wanted to showcase local talent from the Middle East. Haig Papazian cr…
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Ep 6 - The Interview: Jeffrey Feltman
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46:45In this episode, I speak to Ambassador Jeffrey Feltman, long time American diplomat, now a fellow at the Brookings Institution to find more about how U.S. foreign policy is made, what are its limitations and its possibilities as well as the highs and lows of his career. From meeting Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei to a scary meeting in North Ko…
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Can we understand a culture and a region when we don’t read its authors? And what nuances do we miss when we read them in translation? How are authors and poets from the Middle East reaching new audiences? I speak to poet Zeina Hashem Beck, from Lebanon, living in California, about being an Arab Anglophone poet, how the duality of language shapes h…
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Ep 4 - Roe v. Wade v. Women Everywhere
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37:43How do the new restrictions on abortion in the U.S. impact the battle for reproductive rights in the rest of the world? What does My Body My Choice mean in the Middle East? Across the region, abortion is mostly illegal but also easily available, for those who can afford it and because it is usually permissible to save a mother’s life. I speak first…
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Ep 3 - Impunity from Syria to Ukraine
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45:45From Syria to Ukraine, the devastation of war is overwhelming after 11 years of war in one and barely one in the other. In Syria it started with a civilian uprising against dictator Bashar al Assad. Then in 2015, Vladimir Putin stepped in to shore him up. In both Syria and Ukraine, Russia carried out the indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets a…
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Ep 2 - Netflix, Boundaries and Film in the Arab world
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46:20In this episode I explore the world of film in the Arab world and talk to directors and producers who are pushing the boundaries. I speak to Jordan’s Tima Shomali, director of an Arabic language original Netflix series Al Rawabi School for Girls, a huge hit about teenage girls and bullying, which is now going into its second season, and Lebanon’s W…
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In the first episode of People like Us, I bring you to the heart of the show’s purpose and genesis of its concept, connecting the dots between far away places that have been on my mind. Even before Putin invaded Ukraine, the global world order was imploding with stunning rapidity as Xi Jinping’s China strangled Hong Kong, Lebanon’s economy crashed …
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Introducing People Like Us, with Kim Ghattas
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2:40A new podcast show hosted from Beirut by NYT best selling author, Kim Ghattas, connecting the dots between today’s Middle East and the world, how it works and why it matters to you, wherever you are. From Dubai to Kyiv, from Amman to Las Vegas, every episode brings you conversations with great people doing great things in the region and beyond, bre…
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People Like Us - S3 E16 Shannon Irby - TCK Podcast
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31:07Shannon Irby grew up as a military brat. She was born in Germany and also spent her childhood in the USA, Japan and Turkey. Shannon describes her experience of being a hidden immigrant as an African American woman in the USA. She has since returned to Okinawa, Japan (for an extended period of time thanks to the pandemic) where she feels more comfor…
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People Like Us - S3 E15 Sabrina Johnston - TCK Podcast
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32:37Sabrina Johnston is an adopted TCK of mixed heritage who was born in Indonesia and also spent her childhood in Brunei, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia and she now lives in Perth, Western Australia. Sabrina talks about what stability and home mean to her and describes her version of adaptability and how she connects with people who don’t share the experien…
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People Like Us - S3 E14 Agakura Burihabwa - TCK Podcast
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33:48Agakura Burihabwa was born in Germany to Burundian parents of origin Then after a brief stint in the United Kingdom her family moved to Kenya. Agakura talks about the difficulty of returning to Germany and describes what belonging and “home” means to her. She explains how she responds to the classic hard question for us: “Where are you from?” Agaku…
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People Like Us - S3 E13 Anna Snyder - TCK Podcast
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32:29Anna Snyder was born in Cameroon which is where her parents are from, and her upbringing was spent between Cameroon, Nigeria and Niger and then she headed to Texas. Anna had to learn a new language quickly with a host family who didn’t speak English and later had to adjust to American English. Her early moves set her up for adjusting quickly to lif…
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People Like Us - S3 E12 Amanda Bates & Michael V Pollock - TCK Podcast
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39:31In this week’s episode we have a change to the usual format. Here we have three TCK experts in the discussion: Amanda Bates and Michael V Pollock and me, Jen Mohindra. We address the things that TCKs want to know most about resolving their issues. Is therapy the right route or is coaching a better option? And what’s the difference between the two? …
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People Like Us - S3 E11 Mark McElroy - TCK Podcast
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32:01Born to American parents, Mark McElroy moved to Malaysia when he was one year old and went back to the USA to go to university. Having attended international schools in Malaysia he grew up with the comings and goings of other students while he had a more stable base. He later moved to China and then Korea which is where he currently resides with hi…
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People Like Us - S3 E10 Vanessa Callari - TCK Podcast
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31:31Vanessa Callari is of mixed heritage – American and Filipino and spent her formative years between the two countries. Vanessa describes how what feels like home is not a static concept to her and how Covid has had an impact on this. She is very aware of and appreciates the opportunities that her TCK childhood has provided her. Vanessa talks about h…
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People Like Us - S3 E9 Anna H - TCK Podcast
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31:35Anna H is a former triathlete who currently resides in San Francisco. She spent her first 11.5 years in Germany then moved to the USA with her parents but not her older siblings. She describes what it’s like to feel German and also Californian. Whilst wanting to keep an international element to her daughter’s upbringing, Anna also wishes for her ch…
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People Like Us - S3 E8 Chloé Donohue - TCK Podcast
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31:51Chloé Donohue was born in Ecuador, her mum being Venezuelan and her dad American and Canadian. She moved to Romania, Thailand, Indonesia, Switzerland and Ghana before making her first solo move to the United States to go to university. Chloé’s globally mobile upbringing encouraged her sense of adventure in cycling the length of New Zealand then dec…
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People Like Us - S3 E7 Ibtihal Ahmed - TCK Podcast
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28:30It's Wednesday podcast day! People Like Us is a collection of interviews with TCKs about their TCK journey and where they are now. Ibtihal Ahmed grew up the daughter of her diplomat dad, being raised in 6 countries – USA, Algeria, Sudan, Japan Malaysia and India. She talks about being the girl with the American accent and describes how locals in yo…
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People Like Us - S3 E6 Amanda Bates - TCK Podcast
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32:00Amanda Bates grew up between the USA and Cameroon. Moving to Cameroon when she was 9 saw her move from being in the minority to the majority, at least from a physical perspective. She describes living in several places within the USA and the vast contrasts across the country, likening it to nine different countries. Amanda is fascinated in navigati…
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People Like Us - S3 E5 Nurly Yusof - TCK Podcast
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31:28Nurly Yusof grew up as the daughter of a diplomat. She was born in Morocco then moved as a baby to Russia. This was followed by Malaysia (her passport country) then Hungary, Qatar then back to Malaysia. Then her parents moved to Singapore for her father’s last posting and she finally moved back to Malaysia. Nurly describes what it was like to have …
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People Like Us - S3 E4 Amanda Mulder - TCK Podcast
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31:46Amanda Mulder was born in The Netherlands to a Dutch mother (who was born and spent her early years in Australia) and an Indonesian father. She moved to Brazil at 10 years old then Belgium at 15, followed by university in Great Britain. Amanda followed in the footsteps of her mother, moving to Australia as an adult. She has made many moves since! L…
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People Like Us - S3 E3 Somare Nicole Peyton - TCK Podcast
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29:44Somare Nicole Peyton was almost born in the Philippines like her brothers, but was actually born in Texas, USA. She did move to the Philippines at a very young age and moved again, within the country, before going to high school in Texas. Somare describes the difficulties of her moves, both international and local, for both she and her parents. She…
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People Like Us - S3 E2 Galindo Aliyo - TCK Podcast
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32:00Galindo Aliyo was born in Uganda then when she was almost 3, her family moved to what was then called Swaziland, now Eswatini. She lived amongst different cultures in Swaziland until she was 15 and then moved back to Uganda. Galindo talks about what it is to feel settled (in Uganda), patriotism and her identity when it comes to her culture in Ugand…
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People Like Us - S3 E1 Aman Singh - TCK Podcast
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32:28Aman Singh was born into an Indian diplomat family and despite being Indian he doesn’t feel like an Indian and describes experiencing reverse culture shock in India. He spent his TCK upbringing in Spain, Bulgaria, India, Mexico and Myanmar then went to the USA for college. Mexico evokes mixed emotions for Aman since it was the first place that felt…
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People Like Us - Frank Nilsen - S2 E25 TCK Podcast
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31:31I am delighted to announce that as the 25th episode of the second series, this is the 50th episode!! In this episode I had the pleasure of chatting with a former coaching client, Frank Nilsen. Frank grew up between Norway and the USA (moving between the two many times during his upbringing). He talks about the many changes that he has experienced i…
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People Like Us - MaryAnne Camaiani - S2 E24 TCK Podcast
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30:52MaryAnne Camaiani is a Norwegian, Filipino, Canadian who grew up in Ethiopia and Nigeria and has Italian children. She was adopted at 9 ½ months and went to boarding school at the tender age of 6 years old. MaryAnne resisted one of her childhood moves by not boarding the plane to leave. Listen as MaryAnne talks about what home means to her, with 30…
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People Like Us - Marion Lougheed - S2 E23 TCK Podcast
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31:00Marion Lougheed grew up in Canada (where she was born), West Africa, Belgium and Germany. She describes how it can be easier to be a foreigner in a country than a “local” (ie having been born in Canada, lived there for a few years, then returned later.) She also talks about how hard it is to explain life in Africa to those who haven’t lived there!…
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People Like Us - Giulia De Mauro - S2 E22 TCK Podcast
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33:53Giulia De Mauro was born in France to Italian parents and grew up between France, Italy and Gabon. She describes the trauma of leaving people behind as a consequence of her childhood moves and how moving again helped her to “move on” in more ways than one. Giulia also talks about what she considers when deciding where to move and how she has carved…
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People Like Us - Myra Dumapias - S2 E21 TCK Podcast
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31:56In this episode I chat with Myra Dumapias who was born in the Philippines and has also lived in China, Malaysia, Germany South Korea, Romania and the USA. Myra talks about fitting in, class consciousness and growing up between local and international environments. Myra is very active in the TCK space having transformed TCKid into a sustainable non-…
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People Like Us - Jordan Kalondo-Lechien - S2 E20 TCK Podcast
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32:19In this episode I talk with Jordan Kalondo-Lechien. Jordan grew up in Namibia, Kenya, France, Ghana, Switzerland and the UK. He and I share the same experience of having lived in Nairobi from the age of 8 to 13. Listen as Jordan describes how he handles peoples reactions to his response to “Where are you from?” and talks about the ups and downs of …
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People Like Us - Garon Wade - S2 E19 TCK Podcast
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32:38Garon Wade is a transracial adoptee, having been adopted from Sri Lanka by a white American couple. He was raised in South Africa, Hawaii, Gambia, Jamaica, Louisiana and Jordan. Now based in Fort Lauderdale, USA, Garon talks about his international upbringing, going back to Sri Lanka as a teenager and much, much more. Recently published is Garon’s …
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People Like Us - Tayo Rockson - S2 E18 TCK Podcast
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29:24In this episode I chat with Tayo Rockson. The son of a diplomat, Tayo grew up in Nigeria, Sweden, Burkina Faso, Vietnam and the USA. The eldest of three brothers, Tayo describes the different perspectives that they each had of their TCK upbringing. Listen to find out how a near death experience prompted Tayo to decide to use his global identity to …
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People Like Us - Don Blevins - S2 E17 TCK Podcast
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32:11Don Blevins is half American and half Korean and spent his early years in Korea, Malaysia and Taiwan before completing his schooling in the USA. His adult life has seen him live in several different states of the USA and he also feels very much at home in South East Asia. Listen as Don talks about his three daughters and the decisions around whethe…
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People Like Us - Camille Deniau - S2 E16 TCK Podcast
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34:13In this week’s episode I chat with Camille Deniau. Camille was born in Paris to French parents and grew up in France, Singapore and the UK. She describes what feeling rootless means to her and how this feeling of never being rooted or settled inspired her to start her own business: Project Roots, which is glass artwork of trees. “Meaningful artwork…
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People Like Us - Qahli Eltinae - S2 E15 TCK Podcast
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32:00Qahli Eltinae grew up in in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. He attended international schools in both places. Once out of education, he started to explore his Sudanese roots by going to Khartoum. As with all TCKs, smells evoke his memories of his childhood and take him back to the places he grew up in an instant. His book The Moral Judgement of Butterfli…
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People Like Us - Heather Thorkelson - S2 E14 TCK Podcast
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30:23In this week’s episode I chat with Heather Thorkelson. Heather’s TCK upbringing was unusual in that as well as growing up in Canada and Costa Rica, her dad was a pilot so she travelled with him to unusual places such as rural Brazil from the age of 8. This gave her the courage to move to Japan and find out if she could manage on her own in such a f…
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People Like Us - Barry Barnes - S2 E13 TCK Podcast
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31:49In this week’s episode I chat with Barry Barnes. Barry is no stranger to the classic TCK line which is “and then we moved to…” having lived in 41 houses by the time he was 19 years old. He grew up as both a TCK and a military brat in the USA and the Philippines. Listen as we talk about his many interests along with what home means to Barry and how …
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People Like Us - Elizabeth Liang - S2 E12 TCK Podcast
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31:30In today’s episode I chat with Elizabeth (Lisa) Liang. Lisa grew up in six countries as a dual citizen of mixed heritage and now resides in Los Angeles. She has a her multi faceted career that leverages her cross-cultural competence and has created her one-woman show which is now an award winning film: Alien Citizen – An Earth Odyssey. Lisa talks a…
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People Like Us - Louisa Pau - S2 E11 TCK Podcast
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29:53In this episode I chat with Louisa Pau who is a European TCK. Louisa was born in Luxembourg to English and Sardinian parents. She then moved to Brussels and then the UK, which has been her home for many years and she talks about the impact that Brexit has had on her. Listen as we talk about how family is very important to Louisa's sense of belongin…
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People Like Us - Mathieu Gagnon - S2 E10 TCK Podcast
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32:49In this episode I speak with Mathieu Gagnon. Born in Paris to Canadian parents, Mathieu went on to live in six countries during his early years before settling in Canada, although still moving within the provinces. To be in a French speaking country is what makes a place feel like home for Mathieu. Listen as he describes the difficulties of navigat…
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People Like Us - Anne Heijdra - S2 E9 TCK Podcast
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33:46In this week’s episode I speak with Anne Heijdra. Born in Bolivia to Bolivian and Dutch parents, Anne grew up in Bolivia, Peru and Nepal. She recalls the excitement of the promise of a new bicycle with one of her early moves. Anne is now exploring her Dutch heritage and currently lives in The Netherlands. She describes her desire to buy a property …
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People Like Us - Simone Mul-Baker & Ayla Baker - S2 E8 TCK Podcast
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33:36Today’s podcast is very special to me. Not only am I interviewing a mother and daughter TCK pair, but the mum – Simone – was my best friend at primary school in Nairobi. We haven’t actually seen each other since I was 13, although we did communicate via letters. It was so lovely to chat to her after all this time (and neither of us has changed a bi…
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People Like Us - Dami Junaid - S2 E7 TCK Podcast
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31:28In this episode I speak with Dami Junaid. The daughter of a diplomat, Dami was born in Nigeria and then the moves began, which also saw her attend boarding school at a young age. Currently based in Canada, Dami describes the mental strength that she has acquired from being a TCK. Also inspired by her TCK upbringing, Dami has a new fashion line comi…
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People Like Us - T L Mazumdar - S2 Episode 6 TCK Podcast
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31:16In this episode I speak with T L Mazumdar, whose early years saw him living in India, Libya, the UK and Germany. He used to say London was home but now sees himself more at home in Germany. Listen as we chat about how his TCK upbringing has influenced his life including his career in music which reflects his identity.…
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People Like Us - Aushra Shivitskis - S2 Episode 5 - TCK Podcast
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30:41In this week’s episode I chat with Aushra Shivitskis. Aushra was born in Lithuania then lived in Mexico and Canada before returning back to Lithuania again. She then lived in a few cities in Australia and is now back in Lithuania where she has been ice swimming during the winter! Listen as we talk about how Aushra’s TCK upbringing has impacted her …
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People Like Us - Philippe Messer - S2 Episode 4 TCK Podcast
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31:05In this week’s episode I chat with Philippe Messer. British by birth he then had a typical TCK upbringing of living in France, Spain, America, Canada and Japan. His chosen career as a teacher enables him to continue living in new countries and he and his (non TCK ;-) ) wife currently reside in Australia. Although his plans were curtailed by the glo…
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