Inside China’s CCP with Bates Gill

Kellogg's Global Politics

On this episode, Anita speaks with Bates Gill, the Executive Director of the Center for China Analysis with the Asia Society Policy Institute. We discuss the troubling aspects of China’s military modernization, the rise of military-industrial technocrats to leadership positions in the Communist Party, and the importance of understanding China from the inside out.

We begin the show with an update on the Russia-Ukraine war, focusing on the recent intelligence leaks. We also consider whether there are limits in the West’s support to the Ukrainian war effort.

China is not the only country talking about a multipolar world. We discuss Macron’s infamous trip to China and his attempt to carve out a unique foreign policy agenda for Europe while setting himself up to be a distinguished statesman. Brazil’s president, Lulu, also visited with Xi this week with proposals for a closer relationship with China and restoration of the BRICS power bloc of developing nations.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

• 04:30 Russia-Ukraine War: DoD leak revelations
• 32:00 Macron and Lulu meet with Xi
• 54:00 Interview with Dr. Bates Gill from the Asia Society Policy Institute

Articles and Resources Mentioned in Episode

Russia-Ukraine War: DoD leak revelations

• The West Needs a New Strategy in Ukraine (Foreign Affairs-Haas and Kupchan)
• Russia’s commando units gutted by Ukraine war, U.S. leak shows (WaPo)
• A Quick Guide to What the Leaked U.S. Intelligence Documents Say (NY Times)

Macron and Lulu meet with Xi

• From Red Carpet to Doghouse: Macron Returns From China to Allied Dismay (NY Times)
• Europe must resist pressure to become ‘America’s followers,’ says Macron (Politico)
• Emmanuel Macron’s blunder over Taiwan (The Economist)
• French Diplomacy Undercuts U.S. Efforts to Rein China In (NY Times)
• Brazil’s foreign policy is hyperactive, ambitious and naive (The Economist)

Interview with Dr. Bates Gill from the Asia Society Policy Institute

• Asia Society Policy Institute
• Twitter (@batesgill1)
• Daring to Struggle: China's

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Kapitel

1. Intro (00:00:00)

2. Russia-Ukraine Update (00:04:30)

3. Macron & Lula Visit China (00:32:10)

4. Interview with Bates Gill (00:54:25)