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Retaliation with Julie Roginsky

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Retaliation with Julie Roginsky is a weekly podcast focused on the stories of women who have spoken truth to power and been punished for it. It shares the experiences of brave individuals who have been castigated rather than celebrated for standing up. Political strategist and television commentator Julie Roginsky examines the structures, systems, and individual culprits responsible for perpetrating and perpetuating workplace toxicity. Retaliation explores the legal steps, policy changes, an ...
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Julie wraps up season one of Retaliation, describing how the interviews have impacted both herself and the podcast listeners. Though the season is over, please keep the stories coming. Reach out if you need advice or just to talk or just to say "I can't tell you what happened to me but I just want someone to know that something did." For those of y…
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"I am still hurt and pained by that experience. But- I will say this- I always want to remember how painful that was. Because the empathy I feel for survivors and others victims of trauma today as an investigative reporter helps me tell their stories together and demand justice for them." Lisa Guerrero is a former sports reporter, actress, model, N…
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"I bore the responsibility of trying to protect- most often men- from their own poor behaviors and choices. And that is kind of mindblowing when you start to reflect and think 'huh, this doesn't seem right and why have we allowed this'?" Trish Nelson is a former server of The Spotted Pig in New York City, owned by Ken Friedman and partnered with ch…
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"I started doing Google searches- 'is there life after whistleblowing?'" Desiree is the former Chief Sustainability Officer for financial giant DWS, a subsidiary of Deutsche Bank. Desiree's allegations of greenwashing against her former company led to regulatory investigations on both sides of the Atlantic and a reassessment of how the financial se…
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"The reality is that for the most part, speaking out and speaking up is more of a significant risk than anything." In 2019, Adrienne Lawrence, an on-air personality at ESPN, filed a lawsuit against the sports network for sexual harassment. This experience motivated Adrienne to write a best-selling book about navigating sexual harassment in the work…
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"Liberal institutions, no matter how much we may treasure and admire them, aren't perfect. And it really shouldn't be deemed sacrilege when we point that out." Erin Oberbey is a former archive editor at The New Yorker Magazine. After raising concerns privately to her colleagues, Erin published a Twitter thread on the lack of diversity in the magazi…
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"I had given my life to this institution. You care about the school, you've devoted your professional life to making it a better place, and now you're being attacked by the institution." Cheyney Ryan was a longtime Professor of Philosophy and Law at the University of Oregon where, for years, he urged leaders to take a harder stance on sexual miscon…
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Note: This episode originally aired in September. "There were a lot of people who just wanted to be on the Christie train, and at whatever cost to sacrifice anyone else, they were going to do it." Bridget Kelly, Deputy Chief of Staff to then Governor Chris Christie, was on her way to work when she got a phone call that would change her life forever…
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"We need trustworthy institutions so we can repair so many of our social ails. We get hurt from the betrayal and we could profit, in important ways, from courage." Jennifer Joy Freyd is a psychologist, researcher and the founder and president of The Center for Institutional Courage. She pioneered the concept of intuitional courage and its opposite,…
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"A lot of my success was due to my ability to keep my mouth shut, and what I discovered was when I spoke up, all of a sudden the rules of the game had changed." Jamie Fiore Higgins worked as a managing director at Goldman Sachs. One of just 8 percent of Goldman employees to earn the managing director title, she was the highest-ranking woman in her …
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"There was so much sexual harassment and expectation of women who worked there to behave a certain way, be the cool girl and accept rape jokes." Cher Scarlett is a high school drop out, teenage single mother and a former drug addict who taught herself how to code and rose to become a software engineer at companies such as Apple, Blizzard and Starbu…
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Note: This episode originally aired in September. "She Said," a feature film about Zelda, New York Times journalists Megan Twohey and Jodi Kantor and other women fighting to expose the sexual abuse allegations against Harvey Weinstein, is now in theaters across the U.S. Zelda Perkins is the former assistant to Harvey Weinstein. She speaks with Juli…
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"You have to live with yourself every day. Can you say you did everything you were supposed to do to try to do what was right? Were you vocal about it?" Kristen Shaughnessy is a former anchorwoman at NY1, New York's local television station. In 2019, Kristen and four other anchorwomen sued NY1's parent company for age and gender discrimination. The…
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"My number one goal from the beginning was for this to not happen to anyone else." Katie Brennan was campaign volunteer for New Jersey Governor, Phil Murphy's first campaign. In April 2017, Brennan attended a party where she says she was assaulted by one of Murphy's senior aids. For months she tried to get justice, even contacting Governor Murphy h…
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"I felt I had an obligation to protect him because so few Black men succeed." Alexia Norton Jones grew up in the world of music and literature. Her father is the former speech writer for Martin Luther King Jr. and her grandfather was the late publisher, W.W Norton. In the late 80s and 90s, she lived in New York and ran in the same social circles as…
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"They casted me out like I was a diseased animal." Helen Miller was a valued employee as a court reporter for the Cook County courthouse in Illinois. After years of enduring sexual harassment, she finally filed a complaint. She was fired two months later. Her own co-workers and close friends retaliated against her, driving her away from her job and…
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"For 243 years the military just accepted that women were not good enough to do this, and there was no argument you could make to get them to change their mind." Daniella Mestyanek Young was born into the third generation of the religious sex cult, the Children of God. She later served as an intelligence officer for the US Army for over six years, …
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"I trusted the process, but the process and the policies and the people failed me." Lisa Bowman's 20-year marketing career led to her dream job, Chief Marketing Officer at "America's Favorite Charity," United Way. Then, with the hiring of a single employee, everything changed, and her dream career came to an end after deciding to speak out against …
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"Being the lone female coming into an all-male squad, I didn't feel it was my place to speak out against it because it was repeatedly drilled into me that I had to accept this." Liani Reyna is a former Portland Police Sergeant and the first and only woman to serve in the city's elite Special Emergency Reaction Team. After joining SERT came a nightm…
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"There were a lot of people who just wanted to be on the Christie train, and at whatever cost to sacrifice anyone else, they were going to do it." Bridget Kelly, Deputy Chief of Staff to then Governor Chris Christie, was on her way to work when she got a phone call that would change her life forever. After working in state government for two decade…
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"The lawyers looked at me and laughed. 'Do you really think Disney is going to sacrifice their biggest cash cow on the word of two young women?'" Zelda Perkins is the former assistant to Harvey Weinstein. She speaks with Julie Roginsky about her fight for justice against the movie mogul after he assaulted her young assistant and of the careers and …
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"If you complained, you got fired." Dorothy Carvello was the first female A&R executive at Atlantic Records. She speaks with Julie Roginsky about the sexism and harassment she endured at the company. The men running Atlantic and other music labels treated women like Dorothy as personal property, doing whatever they wanted without shame. For women l…
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https://archive.org/download/RetaliationPodcast/4TheShrines.mp3A creature has entered Baby Vamp City, the meal ticket system is being destroyed, and the telephone for Trillby has been repaired. Digital computers have been put into Electrum City, and Accalon attempts to halt his affections for Viola Winton. Will you stand up on Freedom Day?…
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