I'm Laura Kidd, an independent music producer, songwriter and visual artist based in Nottingham, UK, making music as Penfriend (formerly She Makes War and Obey Robots). My mission is to encourage creativity in others by sharing my artistic process, plus thoughts on the philosophy of creativity. In my first podcasting era 2019-2021 I interviewed 50 of my favourite artists and comedians for my "Attention Engineer" episodes. I asked nosey questions about creativity, grit and determination and r ...
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Giving yourself permission to be creative - Matthew Caws, Nada Surf
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Matthew Caws has been playing guitar, singing and writing songs in Nada Surf since 1994. He is one half of Minor Alps with Juliana Hatfield. He’s from New York City but currently lives in Cambridge, England. Find out more at nadasurf.com. In this episode, we discuss how anxiety gets in the way of songwriting, the anomaly of artists being financiall…
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Connection and communion through music...talking to Grace Petrie
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Visit the deluxe show notes page for this episode at http://penfriend.rocks/grace - and read the transcript at http://penfriend.rocks/grace-ts About my guest: a folk singer, songwriter and activist from Leicester, UK, Grace Petrie has been writing, recording and touring relentlessly for more than ten years. Her unique takes on life, love and politi…
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Music as a tool of unity - Rou Reynolds (Enter Shikari)
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Get my FREE 12-track album + 31-page zine http://penfriend.rocks/helloVisit the deluxe show notes page for this episode: http://penfriend.rocks/rou.Read the text version: http://penfriend.rocks/rou-tsRou Reynolds is a vocalist, songwriter, composer, author and award-winning producer, best known for fronting Enter Shikari. Formed in 1999, the band a…
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Celebrating a breadth of voices in music - Miki Berenyi (Piroshka / Lush)
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Get my FREE 12-track album + 31-page zine http://penfriend.rocks/helloVisit the text version of this episode at http://penfriend.rocks/miki-tsContent warning: this is a very joyfully sweary episode so probably not best listened to in the presence of kids. About my guest: Miki Berenyi is a singer, songwriter and guitarist who first became known in t…
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Ep46: Ginger Wildheart on creating a you-sized shape in the world of music
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Visit the deluxe show notes page: http://penfriend.rocks/ginger Read the text version: http://penfriend.rocks/ginger-ts . Thanks for listening! Attention Engineer is a show where I share deep conversations with fellow artists about creativity, grit and determination. My aim is to consistently remind you - and remind myself - that creativity really …
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Ep45: Mary Spender on finding a smarter route to a full-time music career and building a huge fanbase on YouTube
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Visit the deluxe show notes page: http://penfriend.rocks/mary Read the text version: http://penfriend.rocks/mary-ts . Thanks for listening! . About my guest: combining her sultry voice and electric guitar to create rock songs infused with blues and soul, Mary Spender’s songwriting showcases her virtuosic style of guitar playing as well as her wide …
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Ep43: Lou Barlow (Sebadoh / Dinosaur Jr / The Folk Implosion) on building a body of work...however the f*** he wants to
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Visit the deluxe show notes page: http://penfriend.rocks/lou Read the text version: http://penfriend.rocks/lou-ts . Thanks for listening! Attention Engineer is a show where I seek to make the best use of my own valuable time and attention by having deep conversations with fellow artists about creativity, grit and determination. My aim is to consist…
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Ep42: Shingai (Noisettes) on finding creative freedom through generosity
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Content warning: two brief mentions of suicide, in the context of having lost friends. . Visit the deluxe show notes page: http://penfriend.rocks/shingai Read the text version: http://penfriend.rocks/shingai-ts . Thanks for listening! Attention Engineer is a show where I seek to make the best use of my own valuable time and attention by having deep…
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Ep41: Juliana Hatfield on drawing without looking
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Thanks for listening! Attention Engineer is a show where I seek to make the best use of my own valuable time and attention by having deep conversations with fellow artists about creativity, grit and determination. . About your host: I'm Laura Kidd, a music producer and solo artist releasing music as Penfriend. Come and grab two free songs plus lett…
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Bonus Musical Mini Episode - I'll Start A Fire
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Step backstage and hear more about the making of my new single "I'll Start A Fire". . My new album "Exotic Monsters" is out nowwwwww! http://penfriend.rocks/exoticmonsters . Thank you for listening! xo Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or g…
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Ep40: Laura Kidd (Penfriend) quizzed by Miles Hunt (The Wonder Stuff) on "Exotic Monsters" and always going deeper...
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Welcome to a very special episode of the podcast, where my friend Miles Hunt of The Wonder Stuff turns the tables on me and steals the host microphone to quiz me on my new album "Exotic Monsters"! . In this conversation, we discuss being a doing person - how completing little projects gives me energy, the role of letter writing in my life from chil…
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Bonus Musical Mini Episode - Seventeen
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Step backstage and hear more about the making of my recent single "Seventeen". . Get three songs immediately when you order my new album at http://penfriend.rocks/newalbum . Get "Seventeen" pay what you want/can here. . Thank you for listening! xo Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. This is a public episode. If you would li…
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Bonus Musical Mini Episode - Black Car
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Step backstage and hear more about the making of my recent single "Black Car". . Get three songs immediately when you order my new album at http://penfriend.rocks/newalbum . Watch the video at http://penfriend.rocks/blackcar . Thank you for listening! xo Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. This is a public episode. If you w…
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Ep39: Stephen Jones (Babybird) on surviving chart success and finding true connection with music fans
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Thanks for listening! Visit penfriend.rocks/stephen for the deluxe show notes for this episode, and head to Bandcamp to dive into Stephen's incredible back catalogue. . In this conversation, we discuss the importance of making music that’s for you first, the strange and inappropriate uses of “You’re Gorgeous” in pop culture, from Prince William to …
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Ep38: David Brewis (Field Music) on leaning into the editing process - inspiration is overrated
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Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/davidb for the deluxe show notes for this episode, and head to http://field-music.co.uk to pick up the new album “Flat “White Moon. . In this conversation, we discuss how inspiration is overrated, and having to work on your idea doesn’t make you a worse artist (plus it’s fun!), the importance of sh…
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Ep37: Ryan Miller (Guster) on constantly throwing seeds…even if a lot of them will never sprout
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Thanks for listening! Visit penfriend.rocks/ryan for the deluxe show notes for this episode. . Ryan Miller is the lead singer and guitarist of alternative rock band Guster. Formed in 1991, Guster have released eight studio albums, performed with symphony orchestras and played a LOT of gigs. Since co-writing and scoring the film “Nobody” with Rob Pe…
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Ep36: Sananda Maitreya on making a masterpiece of your life
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Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/sananda for the deluxe show notes for this episode, and head to http://sanandamaitreya.com to pick up the new album "Pandora's PlayHouse". . Artist, composer, arranger, producer, multi-instrumentalist, entrepreneur and Post Millennium Rocker Sananda Maitreya had his light switched on at the age of …
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Ep35: Danz CM on having fun and being weird
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Visit the deluxe show notes page: http://penfriend.rocks/danz Read the text version: http://penfriend.rocks/danz-ts . Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/danz for the deluxe show notes for this episode, and head to http://zdanz.com to explore her musical world. . In this conversation, we discuss digging deeper to make the most meanin…
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Ep34: Eliza Shaddad on picking the right size font
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Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/eliza for links to Eliza's work and collect two free Penfriend songs while you're there. . In this conversation, we discuss how the pandemic forced Eliza to deal with her true nature, planning the perfect productive day for maximum music making, health and emotional wellbeing, the self-imposed pres…
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Bonus Musical Mini Episode - Cancel Your Hopes
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The song that took 15 years to write...sort of. How Radiohead's minidiscs and Barbara Kingsolver galvanised an old song idea into what became the theme tune for this show! . Get this song plus two more immediately when you order my new album at http://penfriend.rocks/newalbum . Watch the video at http://penfriend.rocks/cyh . Thank you for listening…
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Bonus Musical Mini Episode - Exotic Monsters
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A peek behind the songwriting curtain at my synthy single "Exotic Monsters". . Get this song plus two more immediately when you pre-order my new album at http://penfriend.rocks/newalbum . Watch the video at http://penfriend.rocks/monsters . Thank you for listening! xo Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. This is a public epi…
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Ep33: Liela Moss (The Duke Spirit) on artistic evolution – dropping the ego and practising for inner peace
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Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/liela for links to Liela's work and collect two free Penfriend songs while you're there. My album pre-order just launched too at http://penfriend.rocks/newalbum <3 . In this conversation, we discuss learning to give space to other aspects of life as a touring musician, evolving as an artist – letti…
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Ep32: Mike Batt on 50 years of writing songs, and the need for anti-gravitational brandy sauce
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Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/mike for links to Mike's work and collect two free Penfriend songs while you're there. . In this conversation, we discuss how a teenage Cat Stevens inspired a slightly younger teenage Mike Batt to write songs, blagging versus reaching - using projects to teach yourself how to do the thing you've be…
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Ep31: Liz Stokes (The Beths) on establishing creative rules for songwriting, and why she always takes a cricket bat on tour
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Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/liz for links to Liz's work with The Beths and collect two free Penfriend songs while you're there. . In this conversation, we discuss the value of establishing creative rules for songwriting and making videos, touring New Zealand during the pandemic, and Beths' bassist Ben's secret breakfast blog,…
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Ep30: Rebecca Lucy Taylor (Self Esteem / Slow Club) on being an auteur, and how work's more fun than fun
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Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/rlt for links to Rebecca's work and collect two free Penfriend songs while you're there! . In this episode, we talked about how becoming a solo artist and making exactly the work she wanted drastically changed Rebecca's mental health, how dancing brought RLT back to her body, bridging the gap betwe…
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Ep29: David Ford on his mission to be the best artist he can be
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Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/david for links to David's work and collect two free Penfriend songs while you're there! . In this episode, we talked about how David's brush with the music industry, how he survived a breakdown to create a thriving career as a lone wolf figure, why pumping content into the world isn't beneficial f…
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Ep28: Kat Robichaud on surviving The Voice USA to forge an independent music career
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Thanks for listening! Visit http://penfriend.rocks/kat for links to Kat's work and collect two free Penfriend songs while you're there! . In this episode, we talked about what it's like to do well on the biggest TV talent show going, and how Kat built an independent career afterwards, how failure and setbacks bring a whole new world of possibility,…
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Ep27: Robin Ince on forging a career with "a dirty bomb of failed creativity"
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Visit penfriend.rocks/robin for links to Robin's work, and get two free Penfriend songs when you sign up to my mailing list. . All music in this series is by yours truly, and the song at the end of this episode is my collaboration with Rat from Ned's Atomic Dustbin. Get "Let It Snow" as a pay what you want/can download and pre-order the limited edi…
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Ep26: Rat (Ned’s Atomic Dustbin) on how Miles Hunt and the YouTube sidebar led to a musical collaboration with…me!
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Visit penfriend.rocks/rat for links to get hold of our new song PLUS tickets for Ned's Atomic Dustbin live in London and Stourbridge in 2021, and get two free Penfriend songs when you sign up to my mailing list. . Ned’s Atomic Dustbin are an English rock band formed in Stourbridge, West Midlands, in November 1987. Formed at sixth-form college, the …
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Ep25: Thea Gilmore on ignoring normal to build an 18 album career
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An artist of enduring international acclaim and a justly revered lyricist, Thea Gilmore’s musical settings have taken many ingenious detours in the 22 years since the release of her debut album, Burning Dorothy. Uncategorisable, whip smart and unafraid to speak her mind, her Twitter bio reads “Singer. Songwriter. Tall bird. Corruptor of words”. . V…
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Ep24: Alicia Gaines (Ganser) on making music to entertain yourself
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Growth with no reward. Finding strength in your less desirable traits. Coming up with the perfect comeback hours later in bed, glaring at the ceiling. Asking yourself: am I improving, or am I just changing into something unrecognizable? Chicago quartet Ganser probe the futility of striving for self-growth during the chaos of our times for dark come…
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Ep23: Catherine Anne Davies (The Anchoress) on aiming for 40% happiness
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Propelled by the Manic Street Preachers’ lyric “libraries gave us power”, The Anchoress(aka Welsh producer and multi-instrumentalist, Catherine Anne Davies) is a voracious devourer of words and music. From her early roots as a classically-trained flautist, to her current obsession with vintage synthesizers, Davies has spent much of the last four ye…
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Ep22: Bernard Butler on sticking to his guns, staying creative and always moving forward
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Bernard Butler is an English musician, songwriter and record producer, noted as one of Britain’s most original and influential guitarists. Beginning his long and varied music career as a founding member of Suede, Butler is well known for wildly successful collaborations with David McAlmont, Duffy and supergroup The Tears (with former Suede bandmate…
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Ep21: Andrew Hung (Fuck Buttons) on losing confidence and the lifechanging power of finding your singing voice
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Andrew Hung is a musician based in London, England. First coming into prominence as a founder of Fuck Buttons, the ecstatic noise group who garnered a rabid cult following, Hung continues to work both on his solo music, as a film composer and as a collaborator (with artists including Beth Orton). Visit penfriend.rocks/andrew for the posh show notes…
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Ep20: Jim Bob (Carter U.S.M.) on not knowing how things should work – and doing them anyway
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As singer with Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine, Jim Bob had 14 top 40 singles, 4 top ten albums (including a number one), sold over a million records, toured the world and headlined Glastonbury. Outside of Carter Jim Bob has had a long and varied career as a solo artist and writer. He has released 11 solo albums, two autobiographies and six nove…
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Ep19: Lemn Sissay MBE on the importance of kindness in a longlasting career
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Lemn Sissay MBE on the importance of kindness in a long-lasting career, how poetry really is for everyone and staying away from unproductive negativity - how to take better care of ourselves. Visit penfriend.rocks/lemn for the posh show notes with links to explore his brilliant work. Get two free Penfriend songs when you sign up to my mailing list.…
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Ep18: Miles Hunt (The Wonder Stuff) on how Covid-19 stopped him from quitting the music business
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Visit the deluxe show notes page: http://penfriend.rocks/miles Read the text version: http://penfriend.rocks/miles-ts . About my guest: Miles Hunt (The Wonder Stuff) on how Covid-19 dashed his hopes of leaving the music business and becoming a truck driver (and why he wanted to quit in the first place), how writing your autobiography can help mend …
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Bonus Musical Mini Episode - The Only Way Out Is Through
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Meet "The Only Way Out Is Through", the second single from my solo project Penfriend. Get this song for free along with debut Penfriend single "Everything Looks Normal In The Sunshine" when you visit http://penfriend.rocks - thanks for listening! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. This is a public episode. If you would lik…
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Ep17: Corin Tucker (Sleater-Kinney) on finding your own power
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Corin Tucker (Sleater-Kinney) on finding your own power, the importance of art in making sense of a world crisis or three and why you should always watch your support bands. Visit http://penfriend.rocks/corin for the fancy show notes with links to Corin's music, and you can grab two free Penfriend songs while you're there. Thanks for listening! xo …
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Ep16: Nova Twins on creativity, craft and commitment
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Visit the deluxe show notes at http://penfriend.rocks/novatwins for links to Nova Twins' music and everything we discussed in this episode. - Get two free Penfriend tracks immediately when you sign up at http://penfriend.rocks - Nova Twins are bassist Georgia South and guitarist and vocalist Amy Love. Fast becoming trailblazers in their own right, …
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Ep15: Estella Adeyeri (Big Joanie / Charmpit) on challenging assumptions and giving back to a supportive music scene
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Read the deluxe show notes at http://penfriend.rocks/estella for links to everything we discussed in this episode. - Get two free Penfriend tracks immediately when you sign up at http://penfriend.rocks - Estella Adeyeri is a performing musician and multi-instrumentalist. She plays bass guitar in Black feminist punk band Big Joanie, and lead guitar …
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Ep14: Sadie Dupuis (Sad13 / Speedy Ortiz) on going into a rabbithole
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Read the deluxe show notes at http://penfriend.rocks/sadie to listen to Sadie's brilliant music and get links to everything else we discussed in this episode. - Get two free Penfriend tracks immediately when you sign up at http://penfriend.rocks - For nearly a decade, poet and multi-instrumentalist producer Sadie Dupuis has been celebrated for her …
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Ep13: J. Willgoose, Esq. (Public Service Broadcasting) on what to do when your band has already headlined Brixton Academy
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Read the deluxe show notes at http://penfriend.rocks/psb to listen to Public Service Broadcasting's brilliant music and get links to everything else we discussed in this episode. - Get two free Penfriend tracks immediately when you sign up at http://penfriend.rocks - Public Service Broadcasting is the corduroy-clad brainchild of London-based J. Wil…
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Ep12: Bright Light Bright Light on surviving as an independent artist in a genre full of gatekeepers
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Thanks for listening! Visit the deluxe show notes with links to Rod's music and his artist recommendations at http://penfriend.rocks/brightlightbrightlight and get two free Penfriend tracks when you sign up. - Bright Light Bright Light is the moniker of Welsh-born, NYC living Rod Thomas, a singer, songwriter, producer, DJ and fully independent arti…
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Ep11: Skating Polly on the importance of dedication
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Visit the deluxe show notes page at http://penfriend.rocks/skatingpolly and claim your two free Penfriend songs at http://penfriend.rocks - Skating Polly is an American rock band formed in Oklahoma City, playing their own inimitable brand of “ugly pop”. Founded by multi-instrumentalist step-siblings Kelli Mayo and Peyton Bighorse in 2009, the band …
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Ep10: Emma Pollock (The Delgados) on how knocking on the wrong door led to a career in music
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Thanks for listening! Visit the deluxe show notes at http://penfriend.rocks/emma to listen to Emma's music and get links to everything we talked about. - Content warning: friendly swearing from the start and one allusion to suicide, in the context of Emma's collaboration with Scott Hutchison of Frightened Rabbit. - Emma Pollock is a Scottish singer…
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Ep09: Nikesh Shukla on writing to make space for other people
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Visit http://penfriend.rocks/nikesh for the show notes, including links to Nikesh's books and everything we talked about in this episode. - Content warning: friendly swearing. - Nikesh Shukla is an award-winning, bestselling writer of books and television. So far he’s published three novels and two books for Young Adults, co-written a short film, w…
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Ep08: Katie Harkin on how music makes the world feel porous
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Visit http://penfriend.rocks/harkin for the show notes, including links to Harkin's music and everything else we discussed. - Harkin has been touring since her teens and is one of the most prolific collaborators of her generation. Now, a lifelong collaborator steps into the singular. In addition to her own band she formed as a teen (Sky Larkin), sh…
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Ep07: Bec Hill on healthy jealousy and what success means in a creative life
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Visit http://penfriend.rocks/bec for links to all the things we talked about plus a special note from Bec *and* a link for her desk tour. Yay! - Bec Hill is an Australian-born, UK-based comedian, writer, actor and presenter. She is best known for her viral flipchart videos and ridiculous social media adventures. When she's not performing stand-up a…
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Ep06: Tom Robinson on how individual audience members can change the world
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View the show notes at http://penfriend.rocks/tom - Born in Cambridge in 1950, Tom Robinson first became known in the late 1970s as a musician and LGBT activist with the Tom Robinson Band (TRB) who were early supporters of Rock Against Racism and Amnesty International. In 1977 their Top 5 debut release “2-4-6-8 Motorway” became one of the landmark …
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