Hi everyone, my name is Mél Hogan and I’m a critical media studies scholar based in Canada. I’m working on a project called The Data Fix through a series of conversations with scholars, thinkers and feelers. Together we explore the significance of living in a world of data, and especially the growing trend of “digital humans” in the form of chatbots, holograms, deepfakes, ai images and videos, and even tech that revives the dead. The conversations are minimally edited, and serve as an archiv ...
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Colonialism, with Ulises A. Mejias and Nick Couldry
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I start the new year with an episode on "data colonialism". I had the great pleasure of speaking with Ulises A. Mejias and Nick Couldry about our contemporary relationship to corporations, about the idea that there’s no capitalism without colonialism (and vice versa), about how human lives are being exploited these days, and about data being a chea…
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Investigative, with Déborah López and Hadin Charbel
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Such a delight speaking with Déborah López and Hadin Charbel, incredible artists-architects-scholars as investigators of future possibilities in light of climate change rapidly changing arctic (and other) landscapes. We discuss a range of art projects, from large installations to projections to speculative fiction, and how these modes and condition…
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Collaborative, with Chris Gilliard
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In this episode, I spoke with Chris Gilliard (@hypervisible) about AI’s encroachment on universities and what this means for collaboration — i.e. learning, writing, thinking and feeling. This conversation puts out a warning of sorts to universities adopting AI given that, as a technology, it is built off of stolen materials, relies on extraction an…
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It was a real honour and joy to speak with someone whose work has so significantly shaped my own (and many of us writing about data centers): Jennifer Holt joined me for a chat about US cloud policy. The Cloud is understood in this episode through the lens of policy, which means we grapple with who owns data, its infrastructures and our data future…
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Frequencies, with Trent Wintermeier
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Listen to the data center's hum with your feet first... on this episode, Trent Wintermeier and I discuss what it means to absorb sound through the body and "hear" vibrations with and through your limbs and ears. We discuss what this means for folks living near data centers, especially in places imagined as kinds of sacrifice zones. Recorded Oct 9, …
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In this episode, I have a conversation with Remmelt Ellen from AI Safety Camp. We discuss AI safety and his 44-page book Artifical Bodies outlining AI harms from the perspective of someone really grappling with the ethics, hype, and harms of the industry and beyond. Recorded Oct 4, 2024. Released Oct 28, 2024. Artificial Bodies https://workflowy.co…
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Everyone should read Lisa Yin Han's Deepwater Alchemy! It's a stunningly well written book about how we come to value the ocean through various extractive mediations. Recorded Sept 27, 2024. Released Oct 14, 2024. Deepwater Alchemy: Extractive Mediation and the Taming of the Seafloor How underwater mediation has transformed deep-sea spaces into res…
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Joana Chicau is a designer, researcher and coder, with a background in choreography and performance. We had a truly delightful chat about how dance can make you understand data differently. Recorded Sept 13, 2024. Released Sept 23, 2024. Website https://joanachicau.com/about.html Publications https://researchers.arts.ac.uk/2383-joana-chicau/publica…
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It was such an honour to be in conversation with Siobhan Angus about what can only be describe as a masterpiece: her book Camera Geologica. Recorded August 8, 2024. Released Sept 9, 2024. Camera Geologica: An Elemental History of Photography https://www.dukeupress.edu/camera-geologica Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
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In this episode, I speak with my dear friend and colleague, Leslie R. Shade about the importance of media reform from an intersectional feminist political economic perspective! Recorded Aug 1. Released Aug 26, 2024. Chapter 5: From Media Reform to Data Justice: Situating Women's Rights as Human Rights from The Handbook of Gender, Communication, and…
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Alina Utrata and I have a conversation about billionaires conquering space for personal pleasure, in the pursuit of energy sources or minerals, or, to push forward a longtermist interplanetary movement. Alina explains how when we think about outer space as "empty", we unwittingly thinking territorially -- an incredibly valuable contribution to crit…
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I invited Lee Vinsel to discuss with me a post he wrote from a workshop on "Politics of Controlling Powerful Technologies". In this episode we discuss how futures are (imagined to be) predicted through data modelling and crunching numbers, and how various alternatives to these statistical imaginaries also come short of knowing what awaits us. Can w…
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Objective, with Lisa Messeri and M. J. Crockett
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In this episode, Lisa Messeri and M. J. Crockett discuss how scientists are in danger of overlooking AI tools’ limitations, and how science is made stronger by questioning its obsession with objectivity. Recorded April 18, 2024. Released May 27, 2024. Artificial intelligence and illusions of understanding in scientific research Lisa Messeri & M. J.…
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In this episode, Shaolei Ren and I discuss the relationship between water and generative AI. We delve into what happens to water in the (very thirsty) data center, what it's used for, and how much fresh water the AI revolution will ask of the planet in the future, and at what costs. Big Tech doesn't yet disclose its water withdrawal or consumption,…
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Diversity, with Catherine Stinson and Sophie Vlaad
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With Catherine Stinson and Sophie Vlaad, we discuss what diversity means in the context of AI -- its applications, conceptualizations, teams, institutions, networks, members, and ideals. As they ask in a recent article, "diversity" is often proposed as a solution to ethical problems in artificial intelligence (AI), but what exactly is meant by "div…
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Unsustainable, with Matthew Archer
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Listen to my conversation with Matthew Archer, author of Unsustainable: Measurement, Reporting, and the Limits of Corporate Sustainability. In his beautifully written book, Matthew makes a case for being highly skeptical of corporate sustainability initiatives, especially as they've become increasingly grounded in metrics of all kinds that measure …
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Change, with Sireesh Gururaja, Amanda Bertsch and Clara Na
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Together, Sireesh Gururaja, Amanda Bertsch and Clara Na explain the paradigm shifts in Natural Language Processing that they've noticed themselves, observed in the community, and documented through a series of interviews with NLP researchers. They share their hopes for the NLP field -- as less focused on benchmarks, and as more self-reflexive and e…
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Adversarial, with Steph Maj Swanson
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Steph Maj Swanson, aka Supercomposite and I discuss the spooky Loab phenomenon, generative adversarial network, negative prompts and the demons (maybe?) lurking in large datasets. Recorded Jan 19, 2024. Released March 11, 2024. What I Learned from Loab: AI as a creative adversary The artist behind the viral cryptid "Loab" reflects on her critical r…
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Kyriaki Goni - an artist with a background in social and cultural anthropology - and I start our conversation reflecting back on the lockdowns of April 2020 in Athens; what this signified, and how it shaped her art, which ultimately manifested as "The Portal or Let’s Stand Still for the Whales", which was a reflection on the tensions between the da…
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Most of us researching data centers have come to rely on various figures and stats telling us how environmentally impactful the internet has become: how big is the footprint? how much energy is used? Anne Pasek and I discuss in this episode just how these things get tallied, and by whom, and to what ends. We also discuss what gets omitted in these …
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Teaching in times of generative AI is weird, and sometimes wonderful. Tobias Williams and I discuss what it means to make art and teach art at this juncture and the conflicted feelings that emerge from resisting with the tools of creation. Recorded Oct 10, 2023. Released Dec 25, 2023. Profile http://tobiasjwilliams.com Instagram https://www.instagr…
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Irene Niet and I have a conversation about how researchers might consider the environmental impacts of AI in relation to their social consequences, and in relation to their impacts on democracy. Recorded Oct 16, 2023. Released Dec 11, 2023. Research profile https://research.tue.nl/en/persons/irene-a-niet Digital (Un)sustainability - Routledge https…
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Ever wonder about the microchips in your car? MC Forelle and I talk about the “chipification” process of cars, since the 70s and 80s, and how these processes and logics see to increased corporate control and surveillance, while making opting out and DIY tinkering more difficult. We briefly touch on subscription model for automotive features — like …
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Empathy, with Steven Gonzalez Monserrate
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In this absolutely delightful hour, Steven Gonzalez, an anthropologist of data centers, walks us through various sites of ethnographic research — from places of abandonment post-climate disaster, the desert, to the suburbs. While much as been written and discussed about data centers in the last decade, nobody does it quite as thoughtfully as Steven…
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While efforts to make “AI” more “open” have gained momentum lately, it seems like both concepts are worth scrutinizing and historicizing so that we can better understand how these marketing terms become a focus (and distraction), as material conditions are downplayed. With David Gray Widder, we discuss where “ethics” are located and how “AI” worker…
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If you think you know anything about e-waste from what’s normally reported in the news, please have a listen to this episode with the brilliant Josh Lepawsky — it will really open up everything you thought you understood! We discuss global waste industries, shipping waste, the ideals of recycling, plastics and mining waste, and the need for collect…
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Intimacy, with Mirabelle Jones
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A truly delightful conversation with creative technologist and artist, Mirabelle Jones. Their work uses generative AI – early iterations of it – to make compelling observations about intimacy. Jone’s work is iterative, where reactions to projects invite new forms of self-reflection, and makes us wonder if we even have a ‘true’ self, if continuity i…
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This is a fun conversation with scholar-poet Gregory Betts about communicating with aliens! How are humans on earth communicating with aliens? What technology does it require? Why? What void does it fill? And do aliens want to be in contact with us? What relationships are made possible by thinking poetically about aliens? On the episode we ponder t…
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Ana Valdivia walks me through her research on the connections between data centers, AI, and mining. We discuss what it means to be a researcher looking at controversial, problematic, and difficult to access sites, and what resistance to the AI industry — which gobbles up water, minerals, land, and electricity at incredible rates — can look like. Re…
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Contradictions, with Melissa Gregg
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Melissa Gregg and I discuss what it means to think ecologically, in, through, and with technology, at a time of perpetually new things compelling us into a sense of urgency about the climate crisis. Together we untangle the affective investments and contradictions embedded in moment of reckoning with out place in the world and on this planet. Recor…
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With Tega Brain — who, after many recommendations – I finally got to meet over Zoom, we discuss using bots to distort clicks related to climate and how the concept of ecology both informs and distorts our ideas about human-nature relationships. Art, addressing these concerns, requires a lot of nuance. Recorded May 23, 2023. Released July 24, 2023. …
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Resurrected, with Tonia Sutherland
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“Resurrecting” means bringing back to life, raising from the dead, restoring to vibrancy, bringing into public view, reanimating… Tonia Sutherland does just this for the concept of the black body in the digital afterlife, through a critique of the archive, the HeLa cells legacy, holograms of entertainers, and emergent AI. An absolute honour to host…
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Neural, with Théo Lepage-Richer and Ranjodh Singh Dhaliwal
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n this episode, I have a truly delightful conversation about neural networks with Théo Lepage-Richer and Ranjodh Singh Dhaliwal. We go through the many ways that the body gets ‘technologized’ and technology gets ‘biologized’ and how and why these conceptualization happen in specific historical and political contexts, and why they matter — and more …
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In this episode Blair Attard-Frost and I discuss AI value & supply chains, AI policies and strategies in Canada and how queer and trans theories can help inform (and refuse) how we think and feel about AI governance. We also discuss the role of creative writing, as outlet and way to reach audiences that might be compelled by “AI”. Recorded May 9, 2…
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Imaginaries, with Fenwick McKelvey
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A recent open letter by Future of Life Institute calling for a six-month ban on AI development has received widespread attention online. Fenwick McKelvey and I discuss the hyped-up ideas from tech leaders about “powerful digital minds” and how fear of AI functions as a marketing tool. We also go over regulation and policy initiatives in Canada. Rec…
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Chatter, with David M. Berry, Peggy Weil, Arthur Schwarz, Mark Marino and Jeff Shrager
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In this episode I speak with some members of the ELIZANGEN project: David M. Berry, Peggy Weil, Arthur Schwarz, Mark Marino and Jeff Shrager. ELIZA is the first “chatterbots”, emerging in the 1960’s. Listen to our conversation to learn more about finding the code for ELIZA in the archives, building various iterations of the bot, and how it helps us…
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Ever wonder what longtermism is and how it’s come to be such a big influence over the tech world? I speak with Émile P. Torres about all things connecting AI hype, ideologies about future humans, big tech’s concentration of power, the idea of human potential (or humanity’s potential) and the idea of moral consequence. Recorded Apr 17, 2023. Release…
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What is nostalgia? A memory? A feeling? A weapon?? Tune in to my conversation with Grafton Tanner about the relationship between tech, nostalgia, retrobate and much more! Recorded Mar 31, 2023. Released April 30, 2023. Grafton Tanner https://graftontanner.com/ Yesterday Once More https://reallifemag.com/yesterday-once-more/ Hosted on Acast. See aca…
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Maya and I talk about [digital] flesh, [digital] intimacies, and how writing in and out of academic contexts helps us feel through our best ideas. We wonder what we owe the world in terms of representation and identity, and whether it’s okay to offer up an altered version of ourselves. Recorded Mar 30, 2023. Released April 20, 2023. Between Flesh: …
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Gina and I talk about her recent article(s) on Wired.com that track violence against women and girls on the internet. We discuss how the internet should be regulated for safety, and question the limits of technological solutions. Recorded Feb 20, 2023. Released April 10, 2023. Minderoo Centre for Technology and Democracy https://www.mctd.ac.uk/ The…
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Stale, with Zane Griffin Talley Cooper
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Zane and I delve deep into the materialities of the virtual world, and try to imagine who the Metaverse (in all its possible iterations) is for — with some attention to our uncomfortable, sweaty bodies, fussing with headsets and sensory overload. We conclude that Big Tech’s visions of the future are a bit stale. Recorded Jan 20, 2023. Released Marc…
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Sasha Luccioni explains LLM to be their parameters and why these matter when thinking about the social and environmental ramifications of AI. Recorded Feb 8, 2022. Released March 20, 2023. Publications (under “Alexandra Luccioni”) https://www.sashaluccioni.com/publications/ ICLR 2023 Workshop: Tackling Climate Change with Machine Learning https://w…
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Hank Gerba was once one of Sophia The Robot’s handlers, and in this episode he reveals the magic (deception) behind social robots that promise to be one day autonomous. Recorded Jan 24, 2023. Released March 10, 2023. Sophia https://www.hansonrobotics.com/sophia/ The Most Realistic Humanoid Robots in The World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjHNFP_…
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Jake Pitre and I discuss the concept of the Metaverse and the future it wants. Recorded Jan 18, 2023. Released March 1, 2023. Who Wants the Metaverse? https://daily.jstor.org/who-wants-the-metaverse/ Awkward Meetings https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/1455624165201887234 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
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Gabriele de Seta and I have a great conversation about deepfakes in a Chinese context. One of the big insights of this episode is that we may have to one day soon consider the agency of replicas in digital (human) form. Recorded Dec 15, 2022. Huanlian, or changing faces: Deepfakes on Chinese digital media platforms https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/…
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Soulless, with Eryk Salvaggio
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Eryk Salvaggio and I discuss what GANs, stable diffusion and neural networks are, and we take listeners through the process of “reading” an AI image. Recorded Dec 13, 2022. How to Read an AI Image: The Datafication of a Kiss https://cyberneticforests.substack.com/p/how-to-read-an-ai-image This person does not exist https://thispersondoesnotexist.co…
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Tamara Kneese and I have a truly delightful conversation about death and the personal data that complicates estate planning and digital doubles. The main takeaway for me from this episode — and there were many — is that we scrutinize our (and others’) likeness in digital form in ways that we didn't have to with memorabilia in material form. Data In…
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Olivia Snow and I chat about the social implications of Lensa, technically a picture editor for selfies and photo retouching, or “an all-in-one image editing app that takes your photos to the next level”. We unpack how AI image apps like Lensa amplify racism, misogyny, transphobia and hatred of sex workers, while also providing a potential way to t…
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Luke Munn and I discuss the allure of ChatGPT technology. ChatGPT is a natural language processing tool driven by AI technology that allows you to have human-like conversations and much more with a chatbot. For me, one of the great insights from our conversation is that media scholars should pay attention to the meaning-making that happens cultural…
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In this first episode of The Data Fix, I speak with Dr. Sarah T. Roberts, an expert in commercial content moderation and THE cultural critic we need right now, on all things tech & society related. We begin our discussion about how moderation on social media works, and what it presumes to parse out or let through, and explore for whose sake moderat…
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