See, Hear, Feel - many of us do these without thinking much about them. Experts in psychology explain important concepts that will improve your ability to observe, listen, and manage emotions. Listen to amazing researchers and authors on subjects like emotional intelligence and everyday illusions, and also hear from doctors how they apply principles of cognitive psychology for better doctoring, health, and wellness.
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EP133: Thrive in Medicine: The Girl Doc Survival Guide
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In this inaugural rebranding episode, Christine announces changing SEE HEAR FEEL to the Girl Doc Survival Guide podcast. The focus will be on navigating the high-stress, high-stakes world of healthcare, aiming not just to survive but to flourish. Featuring discussions with doctors, psychologists, and mental health experts, the podcast will explore …
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EP132: Embracing Failure: Dr. Yemi Sokumbi on Innovation and Perseverance in Healthcare
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, host Christine speaks with Dr. Yemi Sokumbi, a dermatologist and dermatopathologist at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida, who is also the head of medical business development. They discuss key takeaways for innovation in healthcare, including the importance of embracing failure, solving familiar problems, and cr…
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EP131: Beyond Diagnosis: Enhancing Doctor-Patient Bonds with Dr. Eric Fethke
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This episode of SEE HEAR FEEL is an edited version of an episode from the podcast, The Pursuit of Health with Dr. Eric Fethke. Dr. Fethke and I talk about my journey in healthcare, professionally and personally. The discussion emphasizes the importance of improving doctor-patient connections through empathy and psychological understanding. Key topi…
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EP130: How Our Bodies Shape Our Minds: Insights from Dr. Dennis Proffit
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Dennis Proffitt, Commonwealth Professor of Psychology, Emeritus at University of Virginia, shares insights from his expansive research on perception and interoception. Dr. Proffitt discusses how social, emotional, and physical factors influence how people perceive space, including practical examples from his re…
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EP129: Navigating Diagnostic Discordance in Dermatopathology with Dr. Gregory A. Hosler
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Christine J. Ko welcomes Dr. Gregory A. Hosler, president of the Dermatopathology Division of Sonic Healthcare USA. The conversation delves into his recent study on diagnostic discordance in dermatopathology, exploring its implications for patient management and highlighting the importance of ancillary testing and …
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EP128: Understanding Behavior Through Physiology: Dr. Benno Torgler's Approach
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, host Christine welcomes Dr. Benno Torgler, a Professor of Economics at Queensland University of Technology. They discuss Dr. Torgler's fascinating journey from mechanical engineering to economics and his significant research on heart rate variability (HRV). The conversation delves deep into the integration of physi…
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EP127: Expert Perspectives: Dr. Rosalie Elenitsas on Dermatopathology and Lifelong Learning
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Rosalie Elenitsas from the University of Pennsylvania shares her extensive experience in dermatopathology. She discusses her career journey, the importance of daily consensus conferences, learning from junior colleagues, and managing work-life balance. Dr. Elenitsas also offers valuable advice on building a sup…
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EP126: AI, Medicine, and the Human Touch: A Discussion with Dr. Gauri Agarwal
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Gauri Agarwal, an associate professor and associate dean of curriculum at the University of Miami's Miller School of Medicine, discusses the importance of integrating visual thinking strategies into medical education. Dr. Agarwal shares a touching anecdote about a hospital chaplain during the pandemic to explor…
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EP125: Pathways to Balance: Dr. Alejandro Gru on Burnout and Continuous Learning
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Managing Burnout and Continuous Learning with Dr. Alejandro Gru In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Alejandro Gru, an esteemed dermatopathologist and professor, discusses his strategies for managing burnout, including family support, travel, and exercise. He emphasizes the importance of continuous learning through interactions with trainees and c…
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EP124: Life Lessons from a Dermatopathology Legend, Dr. Phillip McKee
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A Conversation with Dr. Phillip McKee: Balancing Passion, Work, and Wellness In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, I reconnect with Dr. Phillip McKee, a renowned dermatopathologist and author. We discuss Dr. McKee's career, his experiences with burnout, and the role his wife played in helping him manage his workload. Dr. McKee reflects on the challenge…
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EP123: Overcoming the Fear of Failure: A Conversation with Dr. Yemi Sokumbi
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, we continue our insightful conversation with Dr. Olayemi 'Yemi' Sokumbi, MD, a dermatologist and dermatopathologist at Mayo Clinic. Dr. Sokumbi discusses her struggles with the fear of failure, especially as an immigrant and a Black woman in a high-stakes profession. She highlights the concept of stereotype threat …
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EP122: Dr. Yemi Sokumbi on Finding Joy and Purpose Beyond Professional Success
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, host Christine sits down with Dr. Olayemi 'Yemi' Sokumbi, a dermatologist and dermatopathologist at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida. Dr. Sokumbi, also the Medical Director for Business Development, shares her personal journey towards finding joy and purpose beyond her career achievements. Through personal anec…
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EP121: Exploring Medical Humanities and Physician Well-being with Dr. Dean Gianakos: Part Two
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Dean Gianakos returns to discuss his role as Chief Academic Officer at Centra Health, his interest in medical humanities, and his journey with The Pharos journal. Dr. Gianakos shares an inspiring anecdote about the poet John Stone and reflects on themes of burnout and personal growth through the metaphor of whi…
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EP120: Combating Burnout: Insights from Emotional Intelligence and Lifestyle Tips
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This episode of SEE HEAR FEEL presents a compilation from episodes 101 to 119, focusing on combating burnout in high-stress professions through emotional intelligence and practical lifestyle tips. It features insights from experts like Dr. Art Papier on physician burnout, Dr. Dean Gianakos on emotional intelligence in leadership, and Dr. Angelina H…
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EP119: Understanding Leadership Styles and Emotional Intelligence with Dr. Dean Gianakos
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Dean Gianakos, Chief Academic Officer at Centra Health, discusses the DiSC assessment, a tool used to evaluate leadership styles, and its role in enhancing emotional intelligence. He shares personal anecdotes about navigating different leadership styles and the importance of effective communication in building …
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= Therefore, let us rejoice! This is a poem by Dr. John Stone, and every time I read it, I am reminded of some of the essential parts of doctoring, both good and bad. It's graduation season (schools as well as training programs) - please share with your graduates, particularly those in healthcare. Dr. Benjamin Doolitle (who was on episode 97) share…
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EP117: William Deresiewicz on living a life you are excited to wake up to
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What kind of life do you really want to be living? What kind of life has meaning for you? And if you have children, and even, like me, have ones thinkinga about college, what kind of life should they be thinking about? This was a true privilege to speak with William Deresiewicz and hear his thoughts on these questions. William Deresiewicz is an Ame…
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EP116: Dr. Art Papier on the right questions
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Dr. Art Papier believes we are focusing on the wrong questions in medicine, and for the best care of patients, we need augmented intelligence. Dr. Art Papier, MD is Chief Executive Officer and co-founder of VisualDx. He is a dermatologist, medical informatics expert, and Associate Professor of Dermatology and Medical Informatics at the University o…
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EP115: Dr. Todd Horowitz (Part 2) on Chemo Brain!!!
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I didn't really know chemo brain is "real" until just recently. Dr. Todd Horowitz has done research on "chemo brain" - with the better term being "cancer-related cognitive impairments", or CRCI. CRCI is real, find out how it manifests, and what can help. (Spoiler alert: it is mental and physical exercise!) Todd Horowitz, PhD, is a prominent cogniti…
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EP114: Dr. Todd Horowitz on medical image perception, AI, and collaboration
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There is so much that we don't know in medicine, plus there is human error, and it would be great if AI could help. Dr. Todd Horowitz is an expert in attention and research on medical image perception. We talk about what you can see in a quick glance, how computer algorithms can fail, and how best to figure out how AI can help us. Dr. Todd Horowitz…
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EP113: Dr. Krista Aronson PhD on picture books, extended contact, and central identity
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I've always thought that (a) book(s) can change the world. Books have definitely changed me. Picture books are a format that I got more familiar with as an adult reading to my children, and as a genre, I think they are hugely important. Dr. Krista Aronson is a psychologist whose work bridges my interest in picture books with my attempts to more ful…
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EP112: Dr. Susan Ko on reputation vs. intent
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360 degree leadership evaluations are common in the corporate world. Really thinking about the meta-skills of leadership (and learning them) is not something that I typically do in my position as a dermatologist/dermatopathologist without a formal leadership role in. my academic department. Through this conversation with my sister, whose job is to …
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EP111: Dr. Duje Tadin on visual perception and expertise
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Dr. Duje Tadin studies visual perception, and his take on what we see is that it is messy. I enjoyed hearing his thoughts on System 1 and System 2 as they relate to what we see in different domains. Dr. Duje Tadin, PhD is a neuroscientist renowned for his groundbreaking research in the field of visual perception. He is currently Professor and Chair…
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EP110: Dr. Ricardo Nuila (Part 2) on disaster syndrome, burnout, and beauty
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I am still turning this over in my head, that Dr. Ricardo Nuila says the purpose of Arts and Humanities is...beauty. I have not thought of it in that way before, and he has really made me think about the role of beauty in my life, in my work, in small and big spaces of good and bad. I think this is a must listen! Dr. Ricardo Nuila, MD is an Associa…
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EP109: Dr. Ricardo Nuila on algorithmania and the humanities in medicine
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Emily Dickinson was one of the first poets that I was introduced to when I was younger, and Dr. Ricardo Nuila refers to one of her lines, Tell the truth but tell it slant. We talk about this, about nuance and context, and how that relates to algorithmania. It comes back to metacognition, gestalt vs algorithmic thinking. Dr. Ricardo Nuila, MD is an …
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EP108: Dr. Bruce Smoller part 2! on visual diagnosis and thinking
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I love talking about metacognition, in hopes of improving how I think, how I diagnose, and how I learn. Dr. Smoller loves to teach and is interested in learning theory, and he has active research experience in learning/teaching visual recognition through pattern recognition, fast thinking. And yet, algorithmic thinking (slow thinking) is important,…
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EP107: Dr. Bruce Smoller's three magic words
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Three magic words to help conquer fear, that may also be a secret to having a long and productive career. I really enjoyed this conversation with Dr. Bruce Smoller, a giant in the field of dermatopathology and pathology. Also tune in next week for Part 2! Dr. Bruce Smoller MD trained in anatomic and clinical pathology at Harvard's Beth Israel Hospi…
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EP106: Dr. Thomas Brenn on diagnosis, the patient, and mentoring
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I am always curious about how others continually improve, and Dr. Thomas Brenn gives good insights on this. Learning in whatever way works for you, getting exposure to new things in ways that you can remember, discovering true mentorship...it's definitely a fun journey. Dr. Thomas Brenn MD PhD received both his doctorate degrees in Germany. He comp…
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EP105: Dr. Richard Carr on confidence and emotional intelligence
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I love to talk to people who are honest and confident in their honesty! Dr. Richard Carr is an internationally known expert in dermatopathology and pathology, and he speaks honestly about emotional intelligence as a muscle, recognizing our own weaknesses, and tailoring emotional intelligence to the individual. Being hypercritical can be a strength …
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EP104: Dr. Ron Stotts on the basics
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Dr. Ron Stotts has been meditating for decades, and he shares some of the foundational building blocks of being able to transformatively lead. Learn about "big mind", "STOP", and how to breathe. We touch on emotional intelligence, self-compassion, other compassion, and more. Dr. Ron Stotts, PhD explores what is possible for individuals, organizatio…
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EP103: Dr. Mitesh Patel on the intersection of healthcare and behavioral economics
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Dr. Mitesh Patel is a physician and behavioral scientist! He helped found the Penn Medicine Nudge Unit, a first for healthcare. We talk about behavioral nudges, both for healthcare and home life, and the small things that we can each do to nudge behavior. Dr. Mitesh Patel MD MBA is a physician executive and behavioral scientist. He is currently Chi…
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EP102: Cass R. Sunstein on habituation and dishabituation
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LOOK AGAIN! A world full of colors can become gray due to habituation. Waking ourselves up to truly see the amazing things around us, as well as the problems that should be fixed, takes dishabituation. This conversation focuses on habituation and dishabituation, how they are defined, and what we can do to get life to resparkle. Cass R. Sunstein is …
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EP101: Happy Valentine's Day! Dr. Angelina Hong on love and medicine
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Dr. Angelina Hong wrote about love and medicine, describing “the blurry spectrum, balancing out physical, mental, and emotional pain with the immense honor of saving and cherishing human life, while simultaneously struggling to reconcile our altruistic goals with realistic but necessary human incentives.” Her writing resonates with me. Dr. Angelina…
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EP100: Compilation of episodes 81 to 99!
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2023 was a tough year for me (if you've been listening, you know some of the reasons why). My memory was somewhat affected, and it was hard for me to hold things in my head (thankfully, this has gotten better). Listening back to these past episodes was a treat for me, and I hope that this compilation might help other listeners as well.…
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EP99: Dr. Ashley Wysong on balance, burnout, and burners
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Dr. Ashley Wysong is a force of nature, and I recently had the pleasure of hearing her lecture at Yale. She seamlessly integrated practical advice in a presentation full of clinical pearls. She's learned a lot to help her be successful, and she shares some of her useful tips with me. Dr. Ashley Wysong, MD is the University of Nebraska Medical Cente…
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EP98: Dr. Jeffrey Cohen on being mindful
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Dr. Jeffrey Cohen took a course called Mindful Medicine as a medical student, and it continues to influence him today. He learned about metacognition and cognitive biases, and he emphasizes approaching all interactions with humility, curiosity, and grace. Dr. Jeffrey M. Cohen, MD is a board-certified medical dermatologist and the Director of the Ps…
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EP97: Dr. Benjamin Doolittle on the inner life, burnout, and wonder
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Dr. Doolittle has a Master's in Divinity as well as an MD, and his research spans hepatitis, HIV, and wellness and burnout. He'll often ask his trainees, "How is your spirit?" It was a pleasure to talk to him about the intersection of medicine and spirituality, the inner life, how it might relate to burnout, insights on how to stave off burnout, an…
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EP96: Dr. Rita Charon (Part 2) on Narrative Medicine
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It's always instructive to hear how someone who started a movement, like that of Narrative Medicine, defines it. Listen in to how Narrative Medicine began for Dr. Charon, why narrative capacity is a better term than narrative competence, and what burnout might really mean. Dr. Rita Charon, MD PhD is a physician, literary scholar, and founder of the…
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EP95: Dr. Rita Charon on the humanities, industrialization of medicine, and optimism
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Please join me in Part 1 of my conversation with Dr. Rita Charon, where we talk about what she is reading, death, the humanities, ontology, the industrialization of medicine, and reasons to be optimistic still. Dr. Rita Charon, MD PhD is a physician, literary scholar, and founder of the narrative medicine program at Columbia University. She is a Pr…
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EP94: Dr. Laurie Paul on transformative events, responsibility and openness
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This conversation really helped me understand why I am having more trouble understanding my own self these days. Laurie also shares how taking responsibility, but not blame or praise, and openness can help us make decisions. Dr. Laurie Ann Paul, PhD (publishes under the name L.A. Paul) is the Millstone Family Professor of Philosophy and Professor o…
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EP93: Dr. Jules Lipoff on why medicine needs creativity
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Learn how it is that Dr. Lipoff and I ended up connecting to have this conversation! (for the impatient ones [like me], find this info at 5:44). Dr. Jules Lipoff, MD is a dermatologist practicing in northwest Philadelphia and Clinical Associate Professor (Adjunct) in the Lewis Katz School of Medicine at Temple University. He runs a PRIDE clinic (PR…
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EP92: Dr. Jason Lee on diagnostic error, cognitive bias, and how we improve
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Dr. Jason Lee has written and presented on how we think, cognitive bias in medical diagnosis, and errors in the pathologic pathway of a biopsy from clinic to final report. The latter was recently published in the Journal of Cutaneous Pathology. It is truly a pleasure to hear Dr. Lee talk with ease about errors, including his own. Dr. Jason B. Lee, …
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EP91: Dr. Jeremy Howick on placebo effects and empathic communication
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Dr. Jeremy Howick has spent his career studying evidence-based medicine as well as placebo effects. In part, this started from when he was a competitive rower, developed an allergy to a cat, and was prescribed ginger tea as a treatment. Dr. Jeremy Howick, PhD is the Director of the Stoneygate Centre for Excellence in Empathic Healthcare and a Senio…
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EP90: Dr. Earl Glusac on meditation and career tips
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Many of the guests on this podcast have emphasized the importance of awareness. Awareness of how we think can help improve how we think. Awareness of implicit bias can improve how we implement our true values. Awareness of emotions can improve how we react or don't react to different situations. I find awareness difficult to cultivate, and I have a…
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EP89: Dr. Doris Day on the power of EQ, metacognition, and deliberate practice
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Dr. Doris Day tells a powerful personal story that she carries with her, a story that has motivated her to get a degree in journalism before becoming a doctor. Together, we explore emotional intelligence, metacognition, and deliberate practice. We end up at self-compassion and the phrase, "but I still love you"! Dr. Doris Day, MD is a Clinical Asso…
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EP88: Dr. Daniel J. Waters on The Healing Power of Empathy: Insights from a Veteran Cardiothoracic Surgeon
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Join Dr. Waters and host Christine Ko in this insightful conversation that delves into the emotional and human side of healthcare, offering guidance for both patients and healthcare providers. Discover practical tips for developing and teaching empathy to healthcare professionals and the positive impact it can have on patient care. Learn about the …
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EP87: Paige Porter on leaning in and reframing the impostor syndrome
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This episode provides a valuable perspective on imposter syndrome, emotional intelligence, and personal growth within the medical field while offering relatable insights for listeners from all walks of life. Learn about Paige Porter's inspiring journey from an athlete with a biology degree to a fourth-year medical student with aspirations in dermat…
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EP86: Three episode bundle! Thinking about thinking...
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Anyone who makes critical decisions needs to be aware of dual process theory and the heuristics we use and are subject to. Dr. Pat Croskerry, Dr. Christopher Chabris, and Dr. Itiel Dror are all experts in critical thinking about how our minds work. This episode is also available for Yale CME credit (1.0 hour). Dr. Pat Croskerry, MD PhD, is a profes…
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EP85: Dr. Edward Vessel on neuroaesthetics and self-relevance
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Hopefully we are all lucky to know the feeling of being lit up. Dr. Ed Vessel studies how neural networks in the brain light up when we are aesthetically moved. I think of this as a type of awe or wonder - when we experience being moved in this way, our so-called "default mode network" becomes very active. The default mode network is generally supp…
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EP84: Dr. Ellen Peters on emotion and numeracy in decision making
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I loved talking to Ellen because her research seems to so nicely cover both System 1 and System 2 thinking - how small feelings should influence us and at the same time how actual numbers and thinking about numbers should also influence us. Dr. Ellen Peters, PhD is the Philip H. Knight Chair and Professor and Director, Center for Science Communicat…
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